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Old 05-02-2009, 10:59 AM   #1
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A Tale of Two Pipes

Here we have two pictures of the resplendent 2009 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 in all its glory. For study here are the exhaust canisters -- they are huge and, in my opinion (but certainly not mine alone), beyond ugly. They are slightly curved and look a bit like art deco, maybe something that belonged on a building designed in the 1930s, a late 1950s / early 1960s Cadillac, or perhaps on the Batmobile from the Michael Keaton-era. That muffler is a freak of nature, but regardless, if one wasn't enough, Suzuki gave you two.

Then note the Yoshimura GSX-R 1000 in motion at Barber. Note how Yosh made a pipe that is all about function, but also happens to capture form, too. It's not a gaudy pipe at all to look at, and, it no doubt it weighs a significant amount less than the factory pipe that Suzuki chose to burden the stock bike with. Power? I'm certain it makes a measurable amout more.

Now, there are some considerations that must be brought up beyond aesthetics. Pipes and mufflers are designed to not only work well at routing exhaust, but to meet certain noise requirements. (Sometimes they have cat converters in them as well.) Surely those big, ugly cans on the stock pipe quiet the motorcycle enough to make the bike USA friendly when it comes to noise and unburned hydrocarbons. Another consideration is tuning. Generally speaking, a 4 into 2 system evens the power a bit while a 4 into 1 system can sometimes leave a small flat spot in power somewhere in the middle of the revs. No doubt that Suzuki designed the stock pipe to work well over a broad range of conditions for the average rider, which, in a way, only makes sense on paper because I'd bet the vast majority of GSX-R owners toss the pipe in favor of aftermarket within the first year of ownership.


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Old 05-02-2009, 11:05 AM   #2
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Gsxr1000 Stock Exhaust = Ugly as !
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Old 05-02-2009, 11:07 AM   #3
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I would be willing to bet California emissions are a driving force behind this design. Do you have any pics of a Euro spec GSXR?

Either way, it is a sneaky marketing tool to sell more aftermarket exhausts. Yamaha pretty much did the same thing with the 09 R1.
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I'm fairly certain the Euro 3 emissions standards that this bike needs to meet are as tough, if not tougher, tan cali standards.

Factory GSXR 1k exhaust has been disgustingly ugly since '05.

As an aside: the racebike's color scheme looks some much frickin' better than stock its ridiculous. Those silver accents look TERRIBLE.
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:29 AM   #5
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I am gald to see they are at least trying to get more style the the simple canister, granted form may follow function and keep it simple.
But a little more creativity than just a canister is nice to see.

I preferred the 08 design and I think the 09 misses the mark.
The Rooster tail affect is more suited to a marine application.
might look cool on a small hydroplane.

I also like the dual exhaust look.

I think running 4 into 2 increases the volume of the system this means you can clear more exhaust through the system at a slower exhaust velocity.
I would think this would help the cat. converter do its job.
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cost effectiveness; the cans are probably identical so they only have to make one base model for each side then weld on the collector. As 1340HIGH mentioned, its all about the emission fines/discount for efficient emission concerns.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:12 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by po-po 5.0 View Post

As an aside: the racebike's color scheme looks some much frickin' better than stock its ridiculous. Those silver accents look TERRIBLE.
I bet that if Suzuki offered the racebike paint scheme, stickers and all, people would be lined up out the door to get one!
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Honestly I think both those pipes look ugly
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