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Old 04-29-2009, 09:31 PM   #81
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Choppers don't have to be expensive....just don't pay for a brand name.


Here is ours that won the Houston IMS show. Its built with a honda engine and gsxr wheels & brakes. We sell these around 10k & they'll outrun almost any chopper.
WOW... I'd hit that in a heartbeat!

What company is that? Are they local?
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:35 PM   #82
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I'm a little lost. My 1990 Honda - designed 45ci motor puts out 100hp and 53lb/ft. How does a 2009 80ci Harley motor produce just 120hp/ 85 ft/lb? That's not very innovative.

Please take into account thats it has got over 54k miles on the clock and still purring with just oil changes.
your 600cc sportbike is a completely different animal from the tc96 engine in harleys and isn't even remotely fair to compare them. the tc96, and harley motors in general (except for the vrod) aren't designed with hp in mind. they are only concerned with torque, reliability, and passing emissions. if you're going to compare harley engines to anything, at least compare them to the metric cruisers. apples to apples.
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:36 PM   #83
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I have taken apart a 05 and 07 Harley road king and the way they put these things together is , I dont think they are worth the money at all. But every person is different.
please elaborate. i'm curious what you didn't like about how they were put together.
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:44 PM   #84
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please elaborate. i'm curious what you didn't like about how they were put together.
Probably the letters....H A R L E Y
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Let's not turn this into a us vs, them thing.

The point I keep trying to get to is that I believe ALL cruisers to be over priced.
It is incorrect to compare sportbike performance, hp and torque, because the bikes are so different.
The only reason I brought bikes into this was to say that sportbikes have a HUGE amount of technology in their design, construction and materials. Yet, they cost thousands less than cruisers, especially Harleys.

Besides saying cuz they're cool or because that's what people will pay, why is that?
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your 600cc sportbike is a completely different animal from the tc96 engine in harleys and isn't even remotely fair to compare them. the tc96, and harley motors in general (except for the vrod) aren't designed with hp in mind. they are only concerned with torque, reliability, and passing emissions. if you're going to compare harley engines to anything, at least compare them to the metric cruisers. apples to apples.
Mine is a 750cc V-4
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your 600cc sportbike is a completely different animal from the tc96 engine in harleys and isn't even remotely fair to compare them. the tc96, and harley motors in general (except for the vrod) aren't designed with hp in mind. they are only concerned with torque, reliability, and passing emissions. if you're going to compare harley engines to anything, at least compare them to the metric cruisers. apples to apples.
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Mine is a 750cc V-4
SecretAgent still makes a good (and valid) point. It's not like they can't design their v-twins to have more HP. It's just a play on cams, pistons, rods, etc. to get exactly what they're looking for. Btw, there's a huge difference between 53 lb-ft vs. 85 lb-ft torque, which I assure you will feel in the seat of your pants.
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SecretAgent still makes a good (and valid) point. It's not like they can't design their v-twins to have more HP. It's just a play on cams, pistons, rods, etc. to get exactly what they're looking for. Btw, there's a huge difference between 53 lb-ft vs. 85 lb-ft torque, which I assure you will feel in the seat of your pants.
You know, you're right. I need to ride a real Harley. Anyone want to let me ride theirs?
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your 600cc sportbike is a completely different animal from the tc96 engine in harleys and isn't even remotely fair to compare them. the tc96, and harley motors in general (except for the vrod) aren't designed with hp in mind. they are only concerned with torque, reliability, and passing emissions. if you're going to compare harley engines to anything, at least compare them to the metric cruisers. apples to apples.
If those are the only 3 things they're concerned about....I grade harley at a 66%.
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The green chopper in the pic is around 70 lbs heavier than your average 600
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BEEP wrong answer My wing is heavier than a hawg and I still kick its 2 ways to sunday.
Your Wing is neither cruiser nor sportbike.

Jeezus bill - you dont have to argue everything. Go get laid or something.
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What is it then? Does my wing not a have a title? It is just a "wing" no cruiser no sportbike no nothing? And I did get laid last night. It was fun too.

He was the one that said the reason harleys were slower than sportbikes was because of the weight becuause it is considered a cruiser. That is the only reason I posted what I did. U think I am argumentative. what the are you suppose te be on a message board?. ON every post type +1 or something?
Technically your Wing is a Luxury Tourer. There really are only 3 other bikes in that segment and only one is a legitimate comparison - the BMW K1200LT. The other two in the segment are the FLHTCUI (Ultra Classic) and the Victory Vision, but as both of those are V-twins, comparing them is a little unfair.
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