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Old 11-21-2008, 09:55 AM   #1
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So this guy in a white Toyota, we'll call him DB, did 50 down the center lane at 528 and 518 last night. He missed me and the 2 cars in front of me by a blonde c#nthair (slightly more than a red but much less than a brunette) as we were trying to get into the turn lane.

I was , which can make me stupid, so I confronted DB and explained in so many words why I was dissapointed in the poor choice he had made. This was a pointless and stupid thing for me to do and I deserved to be shot if DB had been on his game.

DB explained to me that he wouldn't have had to cut us off if I hadn't passed him doing 60 on 528. I laughed, he yelled. DB decided to follow me and we had a very nice ride through Friendswood before he gave up and went home .

DB had a point, though. My aggressive riding (I had to pass a cruiser at Bay Area) irritated the other drivers and they, in turn, drove aggressively. I put myself, the cruiser , the other left-turners and DB at risk.

We take for granted that a bike can get around a little better than a cage and that there are certain inherent dangers in the tradeoff. We need to be aware of the resentment and added danger we create when we take advantage. This is a valid argument against lane splitting (guilty) and driving on the shoulder (guilty) and squidtastic behavior (can't prove it). Inherently dangerous or not, they create a negative vibe that makes guys like Douche Bag feel they have to get even.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:00 AM   #2
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:03 AM   #3
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FCK THAT! You passed the guy goin 60 on 528....speed limit is 45 but I've only ever seen that observed when a cop is around. DB was in the wrong and decided to be stupid and tried to blame you, but the worst part is you fell for it.

Please tell me how passing someone in any way warrants him almost killing you? Glad DB didn't snap and take you out after the speech, but it's silly to me that you feel responsible for someone else being an idiot....

Edit: would he have tried to take out a civic from one of the local kids flying by him on 528??
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:05 AM   #4
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I'm not responsible for DB's behavior, just mine. I wasn't thinking about how others would react to my riding. If I was in the wrong I wouldn't have dubbed him Douche Bag, believe me.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:16 AM   #5
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Oh this is all BS.......... does this DB have no spine and brain of his own? He bases his lack of intell on others bad decisions?? Soooo many ppl out there need to own up to their own mistakes and choices and not blame it on a reaction to others.

**Sorry for the rant...... I just woke up
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:20 AM   #6
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So basically a cager got upset at the fact that a motorcycle is smaller, faster, and corners better than a car?

Same as opening doors when someone is lanesplittig.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:22 AM   #8
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So this guy in a white Toyota, we'll call him DB, did 50 down the center lane at 528 and 518 last night. He missed me and the 2 cars in front of me by a blonde c#nthair (slightly more than a red but much less than a brunette) as we were trying to get into the turn lane.

I was , which can make me stupid, so I confronted DB and explained in so many words why I was dissapointed in the poor choice he had made. This was a pointless and stupid thing for me to do and I deserved to be shot if DB had been on his game.

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DB had a point, though. My aggressive riding (I had to pass a cruiser at Bay Area) irritated the other drivers and they, in turn, drove aggressively. I put myself, the cruiser , the other left-turners and DB at risk.

We take for granted that a bike can get around a little better than a cage and that there are certain inherent dangers in the tradeoff. We need to be aware of the resentment and added danger we create when we take advantage. This is a valid argument against lane splitting (guilty) and driving on the shoulder (guilty) and squidtastic behavior (can't prove it). Inherently dangerous or not, they create a negative vibe that makes guys like Douche Bag feel they have to get even.
Next time you decide to have a "conversation" with somebody in a cage, before saying a word, snap a pic of their license plate with your phone camera.

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Whats irritating about situations like this and guys like DB is that they get off when we ride our bikes to our advantage, and whether its because they are jealous of some of the things bikes are able to do because of size, speed and agility, I dont know, but for them to suddenly start driving and treating a motorcyclist as if he was in a cage is just lack of respect for life. Bikers can easily be killed by this kind of asshattery and its so irritating that people will still do that kind of .
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It all boils down to giving people the same respect you would like them to give you.
I don't tailgate, buzz people, or cut them off, because I don't like them doing it to me.

You can bet your I'm gonna return the favor 3 fold if someone pulls that on me first.
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The way I see it, with the amount of people that try to kill us daily for no ****ing reason, I don't owe them any respect.
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The way I see it, with the amount of people that try to kill us daily for no ****ing reason, I don't owe them any respect.
That's getting to my point, Redux. I don't particulary feel like I owe them any respect either, but I'm learning that it's in my own self interest in certain situations to at least be aware of how they'll react. It's like dealing with a judge, he didn't do anything to deserve all the starfish munching, but he doesn't have anything to lose either.

p.s. The guy in the white Toyota is a Douche Bag.
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:03 AM   #13
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Gotcha. Yes whenever I see an aggressive driver, its always a good bet to let him pass or get as far away as possible.
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:41 PM   #14
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Gotcha. Yes whenever I see an aggressive driver, its always a good bet to let him pass or get as far away as possible.
i think we can all agree on that
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