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Old 11-17-2008, 03:31 AM   #1
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trail braking?

what is trail braking? heard about it when i was in eureka springs. by the way i went to eureka spring, arkansas and rode around there for 5 days. it was freakin awsome. best roads i've ever been on. no traffic, no cops, and smooth road. pig trail is amazing.
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:47 AM   #2
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Trail braking is the braking you do while entering a turn. Instead of releasing the brakes while still upright, you slowly let out on the brake as you turn in and come to your apex. At the Apex you're back on the throttle. This is a very rough explanation and several others can do a better job of it.

One rule of thumb is that for each degree of lean you have you remove that percentage of available braking do to tire grip.

Both of those items are both very rough explanations and are just to give an idea. Wait for other to chime in on their comments, or try to pick up on of the books out there that explain this for sport bike riding.
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:48 AM   #3
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Another reference...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_braking
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:31 AM   #4
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It's braking while in a turn. You can use it pretty effectively to continue scrubbing off speed while turning, to raise the lean angle of the bike if you decide you are making too much speed through a turn, or to put more weight forward on the bike while in a turn. Some people use the rear brake for trail braking becasue to them it may feel more comfortable, and with good reason. But the bad part is that the rear brake it a lot easier to lock up, especially in a panic situation. Feathering the front brake is the prefered method. Well, mine atleast.
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:40 AM   #5
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there was a thread a while back that somene had zoomed in on the hands of serveral fast guys/gals out on the track and the majority of them had one or two fingers on the brake going through the turn
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if your not on the gas your slowing down
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if your not on the gas your slowing down
really? please elaborate
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really? please elaborate
How much elaboration could his statement possibly need?

Trail braking can be dangerous, and the technique should be practiced over time and with experience. It could end in a real bad way if you're not careful. Braking in a turn is a technique that really should only be employed on the track or in an emergency situation on the streets.

Trail braking is a way to get through a turn or change a line in a turn.

If you're doing this on the street in a non-emergency way, then you're riding too fast.

Trail braking with the rear brake is a bad idea too- much easier to lose control using the rear brake. YMMV.
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It is a skill best learned and practiced on the track, but it is very handy to be comfortable with using the brakes while leaned over in turns.

Basic laymans explanation... rather then braking before the curve, then letting off and leaning, you continue to brake as you start your lean, and as far into the turn as needed.

Two schools of thought, one says do all your braking before the turn, then go back to maintenance throttle as you turn. Other says continue on the brake and throttle at the same time, to adjust your speed farther into the turn.

Racers will tell you that they are either on or off the gas, there ain't no in between....
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:25 PM   #11
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Just to be clear, "on" the gas does not mean WOT. When your off the gas, the bike is slowing down, you can pick up the throttle and match engine speed/bike speed real early in the corner thus maintaining momentum.
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