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Old 08-13-2008, 10:30 PM   #21
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they are about 80,000 for the supercharged version in the US

your dreaming if you think most people can afford one.
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they are about 80,000 for the supercharged version in the US

your dreaming if you think most people can afford one.
nope....trust me...they are not that expensive...even if you bought the euro version, which costs more, at the exchange rate it is still well under 80k. Now what a dealer charges for markup....that's a different story. But MSRP on that bike in the US even for the top model is no where near 80k.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:56 PM   #23
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nope....trust me...they are not that expensive...even if you bought the euro version, which costs more, at the exchange rate it is still well under 80k. Now what a dealer charges for markup....that's a different story. But MSRP on that bike in the US even for the top model is no where near 80k.
That's incorrect.

I spec'd out an Ariel Atom about a year and a half ago when I was considering dumping the GT-3 in favor of a purpose built track car. The car I was considering having built was over $85K in US dollars. Base price of the car is $65K and that's the smaller 245 hp motor. That doesn't include the fully adjustable suspension, racing brakes, full roll bar, or the other items necessary for race prep.

It appears that Brammo may not be as involved with Ariel as they were previously. When I went through the process, I was talking to Brammo and using a link on the Brammo website for the buildout. I see that Brammo doesn't advertise the car any longer, nor can you do the mock build up for pricing.

Here is the URL that shows the base pricing or $65K, but not the prices for the options...

http://www.arielatom.com/specs/options
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i like the atom, but i dont see what the big deal is about them. you can do the same with a kit car and spend way less. it would take so little effort to build a comparable machine out of a miata and turn it into a lotus 7 style roadster. add a supercharger or turbo and the thing is magic. you could realistically do it yourself for under 20 grand.

meanwhile, i beleive the current us pricing on an atom 2 is closer to 60k.
enjoy your overpriced tube frame to drive on roads single purpose car that has a civic engine

actually, i think the us atom 2's are going to have an ecotec engine.

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i like the atom, but i dont see what the big deal is about them. you can do the same with a kit car and spend way less. it would take so little effort to build a comparable machine out of a miata and turn it into a lotus 7 style roadster. add a supercharger or turbo and the thing is magic. you could realistically do it yourself for under 20 grand.

meanwhile, i beleive the current us pricing on an atom 2 is closer to 60k.
enjoy your overpriced tube frame to drive on roads single purpose car that has a civic engine

actually, i think the us atom 2's are going to have an ecotec engine.

OH BOY!
When I spoke to Brammo, they confirmed that the Brammo built Atom's would be based on the EcoTec. Curiously, now that TMI Autotech is involved, it appears the honda powerplant is back in play.
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Here is the current TMI Autotech Price List...

Engine Honda K20(DBW) $65000.00
245hp Normally Aspirated $0.00
300hp Supercharger Kit $5500.00
Polished Header and Exhaust $975.00
Transmission - 6 speed $0.00
Wilwood Dynalite $0.00
Alcon - Track Package $3975.00
Remote Brake Bias Adjuster $250.00
Tuned non-adjustable Dampers $0.00
Aluminum Adjustable Damper $2720.00
Two Piece Spring Kit $444.00
Chromoly Aerofoil Wishbone $5098.00
Race Grade Rod Ends $1746.00
Quick release Steering Wheel Hub $249.00
Shift Light Steering Wheel $351.32
One-piece Fiberglass Bucket $0.00
Individual Seating $TBD
2 inch 4 point harness $0.00
3 inch 6 point harness $328.00
Standard Screen(no deflector) $0.00
Bubble Screen $495.00
Full Glass Windscreen $TBD
Carbon Fiber Wings (Front/Rear) $8670.00
12 Spoke (Silver or Black) $0.00
Magnesium Dymags $3750.00
Chassis Powder Coat (Silver or Black) $0.00
Custom Color Chassis $1450.00
Fenders - Fiberglass Black $0.00
Bodywork Fiberglass Standard Colors** $0.00
Carbon Fiber Bonnet $984.00
Carbon Fiber Airbox Cover $1784.00
Carbon Fiber Fenders $1442.00
Carbon Fiber Nose $4226.00
Carbon Fiber Rear Deck $950.00
Carbon Fiber Engine Cover $1826.00
Carbon Fiber Screen (Standard) $1808.00
Carbon Fiber Screen (Bubble) $2026.00
Carbon Fiber Tub $4028.00
Side Panels $400.00
Carbon Fiber Instrument Surround $482.00
Battery Master Switch $275.00
High Intensity Rain Light $225.00
Roll Bar Hoop $1195.00
Towing Eye Kit - Front $603.00
Towing Eye Kit - Rear $199.00
Fire Estinguisher Kit $675.00
Stainless Steel Hardware $725.00
Car Cover - Indoor $525.00
Car Cover - Outdoor $525.00
Rally-Style Intercom System $TBD
Passenger Footrest $197.35
Lighting Kit 1358.37
12V Power Source $60.00
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Wow. Some things on that price list are ridiculous. I would do half that myself for that price.
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:21 PM   #28
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Price of the supercharger, alcon brakes, fully adjustable dampers, and wings is about what you'd expect. Heck, the ceramic rotors on my GT-3 are $6K a pop. I spent $10K fully adjustable Koni 2812's with hypercoil springs for the Viper. The OEM carbon rear wing on the GT-3 is about $5K.

The high performance stuff costs big dollars.

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Battery Master Switch $275.00
High Intensity Rain Light $225.00
Towing Eye Kit - Front $603.00
Towing Eye Kit - Rear $199.00
Fire Estinguisher Kit $675.00
Car Cover - Indoor $525.00
Car Cover - Outdoor $525.00
Passenger Footrest $197.35
Lighting Kit 1358.37
12V Power Source $60.00


You mean these things are reasonably priced?


On a side note. Any extinguisher that costs $675 fukin dollars better hop of its mount and put the fire out all on its own. And any $60 12v outlet better have a goddam ipod built into it.
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If you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it.
No I just don't see the point in money away...whether you have none or a ton, wasting it is still wasting it.

BTW I just got back from Whataburger...I asked the lady how much a number 1 was...she told me....I was able to afford it....Thus your logic is flawed.
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well one could say that owning a sport bike is away money. its a toy afterall....
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Not really, I see my bike as a tool rather than a toy. I use it to commute after all.

Nice little go-kart, it looks like a t-rex but with four wheels.
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well one could say that owning a sport bike is away money. its a toy afterall....
I am not referring to the Atom in general. I am referring to the few parts on that list that are ridiculous. Any decision to modify my bike I make is a price conscious one.
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I am not referring to the Atom in general. I am referring to the few parts on that list that are ridiculous. Any decision to modify my bike I make is a price conscious one.
i dont really have to worry about mods for my CBR

i would rather an atom over any car, just because of the openness
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Not really, I see my bike as a tool rather than a toy. I use it to commute after all.

Nice little go-kart, it looks like a t-rex but with four wheels.
well lets be honest here. if you got a bike strictly for commuting and nothing else, you could have gotten a 250 or even a scooter and gotten twice the milage or more. so why did you choose to get a machine that will do 10 seconds on the quarter mile straight from the factory?

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I am not referring to the Atom in general. I am referring to the few parts on that list that are ridiculous. Any decision to modify my bike I make is a price conscious one.
but the atom is just another toy. like our bikes, anything spent can be considered "wasted money" if you really want to. theres a reason those parts cost that much.
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but the atom is just another toy. like our bikes, anything spent can be considered "wasted money" if you really want to. theres a reason those parts cost that much.
Again...like I said. You are seeing my statement out of context. All modifications become a price conscious decision. It is a matter of cost vs value. Will I spend $400 for a damper...yes because that is something that will benefit me and is a value...will I pay $675 for a fire extinguisher...no cause I can get auto-mountable fire extinguishers at walmart for under $20.
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The KTM X-Bow is cooler.

This is a great looking, very promising track car. I've not heard when it is set for release in the USA. Any ideas?

BTW, for a great track weapon, a used Formula Mazda can be purchased for 15 to 25K. It's powered with a relatively bulletproof mazda rotary motor. There are many stories of the engine surviving three full race seasons without a rebuild. The transmission tends to be the wear item, however, with annual rebuilds not being that unusual. Other than brakes and tires, the only other major wear item is the rod ends. Of course, a set of tires is still over $1,200.

When I was going through the processes of identifying a good, purpose built track car, I drove a Formula Mazda at MSR-Cresson (1.7 mile). Only drove it for about 20 minutes and it was my first time in a open wheel, tube chassis, slick laden, fully winged car. What a fantastic drive with fast lap at about 1:20. Of course it was outrageously expensive. I think I paid about $700 for that one session.

It's actually a car a normal person can maintain and it has a traditional starter so you can get in, hit the ignition, and roll.

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Dry Weight: 1140 lbs.
Engine: Sealed Mazda 13B rotary
HP: 180
Transaxle: Racing 5-speed plus reverse
Carb: Weber 48 DCOE
Wheelbase: 95 in.
Track: Front: 59 in. Rear: 58 in.
Brakes: 4-wheel spec discs & calipers
Wheels: Front: 8x13 BBS Rear: 10x13 BBS
Features: Adjustable shocks, sway bars, brake bias and wing angles
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