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Old 05-22-2008, 09:10 AM   #101
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I cover the front brake lever a lot. Just makes it easier for me to apply the brake if needed. I'm from the school of brake early (sometimes accused to braking TOO early!), get shifting done and set your speed before the turn. Here's how I cover the brake lever most of the time, street and track riding:

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Old 05-22-2008, 09:17 AM   #102
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The problem with riding a inline 4 off the bottom, and this is esspecially true for 1000's. The engine makes more torque down low. Torque is much harder to control, and it will spin the tire easier and with more force. When the motor is wound up, it is making horsepower, but the torque curve usually tops out or stays pretty flat, up top. So if you spin the tire it is easier to control. Look at a dyno chart for any inline 4, and you will see that the rate of change in hp & torque are larger usually 6000 rpm - 10,000 rpm. Everything above that, the bike is making horsepower, but it is above the "hit" or the area in the rpm range where the motor's rate of acceleration is higher. If your not able to ride the corners at the desired corner speed with an appropriate engine speed, then it is time to adjust your gearing. Obviously if your having a problem in 1 or 2 corners, then a gearing change may not be the best decision. If your finding your self having issues in a lot of corners, then it is time for a gearing change.

HINT: make small changes at first until you find out what you like, then take notes as to what you like at certain tracks.

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Old 05-22-2008, 09:17 AM   #103
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:46 AM   #104
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You can tell by the avatar that Jody is a black plate that means he is

just because i hang out with Jeff doesnt mean im gay. as far as the black plates go... thats the color of the 450cc class in the Pikes Peak international Hill Climb race.
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Hey Jody I heard your motard is dead....
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:08 AM   #106
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were did you hear that ? are u sure they werent speakin about my 1000 ?
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I heard the motard...was I mistaken.
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BTW I thought I read it on here somewhere
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:53 AM   #109
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BTW I thought I read it on here somewhere
the motard is all good. although its my buddy mikes. my 1000rr is acting up. thats probably what you read.
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Also, concerning the RPM question you mentioned. Being high in the power in a turn may actually slow a "slower" rider down. Since instead of concentrating on their line, eyes, reference points, they are busy making sure the RPM are in the sweet spot thus forgetting about the rest of the equation. I've recommended to a few peeps that seemed to be having issues with T6 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) to up shift and be out of the "sweet spot" so they would concentrate on their line instead of their engines. And they came back and said..."man i've never been that fast throught that turn before! thx". Also, this is especially beneficial if your on a bigger big(750,1k).

Some people say smooth is fast....I concur. Unless your Jody and you just want to violate the bike in every way imaginable...chains breaking and all
u could've not explain it better mang
by the way when u go to a track day.....to they have like reference points or something that tells u when to start digging (for rookies)
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I cover the front brake lever a lot. Just makes it easier for me to apply the brake if needed. I'm from the school of brake early (sometimes accused to braking TOO early!), get shifting done and set your speed before the turn. Here's how I cover the brake lever most of the time, street and track riding:
hey i do exactly the same...all the time also with the clutch

good habit i guess
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u could've not explain it better mang
by the way when u go to a track day.....to they have like reference points or something that tells u when to start digging (for rookies)


hey i do exactly the same...all the time also with the clutch

good habit i guess
MOST TRACKS HAVE REFERENCE POINTS...
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u could've not explain it better mang
by the way when u go to a track day.....to they have like reference points or something that tells u when to start digging (for rookies)


hey i do exactly the same...all the time also with the clutch

good habit i guess
MOST TRACKS HAVE REFERENCE POINTS...

They don't tell you when to start diggin', but they allow to you reference them so you can start diggin'
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They don't tell you when to start diggin', but they allow to you reference them so you can start diggin'
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:54 PM   #115
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u could've not explain it better mang
by the way when u go to a track day.....to they have like reference points or something that tells u when to start digging (for rookies)


hey i do exactly the same...all the time also with the clutch

good habit i guess

I rarely 4-finger the clutch all the way in, especially on downshifts. Pinky and ring are around the bar and I pull with my index and middle to the point where the clutch lever makes contact with my other 2 fingers. Blipping the throttle as I go down.

Regarding reference points, yes some tracks have them, but it's best (and this is from the code way) to pick your own reference points on the track as a cone or flag planted might move around during the day.
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