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Old 04-07-2008, 01:36 PM   #1
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Sobering how often we overestimate our skill

As a newer rider I want to remind you not to overestimate your abilities, or even the more seasoned. I ride in heavy commuting traffic on FM 1960 all the time. This morning, i was feeling a bit of the hooligan (or squid!) in me. In middle of area minivan was going a bit slow. It was a no passing, no oncoming traffic and aparts all around. I was a bit impatient so started reving a little to get ready to pass, only to see the guy FINALLY indicate and brake to turn left. I off course was starting to accelrate, so i let off throttle and LOCKED THE rear brake again!!! I'd been praticing front soley to stop having these potential problems, and use better conrol. I fishtailed a bit, kept it under control and almost laughed at the face of the person in front who was trying to figure out if it was safe to turn in front of the loon.

I wear full gear all the time, reflective vest, abide the law and don't speed excessively, my acts of hooliganism are 10-20 mph over speed limit , generally in a 35, i'm going around 45-50 pretty much WITH traffic. (shhh don't tell), occasionally lane filtering....

It was sobering.... Remembering my impatience could have cause a spill or me to get hurt even with full gear....

REMEMBER, and don't take over estimate your survival reactions that you'll panic at times, and won't always live out your perfect scenario of training... BE CAREFUL OUT THERE. We need more safe riders!
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #2
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why do so many rely on the rear brake. I hardly use mine at all. Its useless unless you want to see the wheel come around on you. The front brakes should be the majority of your braking on a rocket.
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why do so many rely on the rear brake. I hardly use mine at all. Its useless unless you want to see the wheel come around on you. The front brakes should be the majority of your braking on a rocket.
i use the rear brake all the time
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yes - but only with the front brake, right? or only in slow maneuvers and light braking...?
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it keeps you from looping when you are wheeling DUH!
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i use the rear brake all the time
I use my rear brake all the time also. It actually does help slow you down quicker when you are using your front brake, but you have to know how to use it correctly for it to be effective.
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i find it helpful at low speeds, and where you aren't fully upright... BUT i'm trying to train myself on just front brake...

Its tough though not to have a panic reaction, takes time to train out of those... Thats why i'm glad i'm on a ninja 250... I can't wait to get a Husky 610... but i'm not ready for that power yet, as much as I really think i am, moments like these assure me i choose right by starting small.
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why do so many rely on the rear brake. I hardly use mine at all. Its useless unless you want to see the wheel come around on you. The front brakes should be the majority of your braking on a rocket
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It was sobering.... Remembering my impatience could have cause a spill or me to get hurt even with full gear....

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Always use Both breaks at the same time. thats what the MSF says !! go go Racer X!
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i find it helpful at low speeds, and where you aren't fully upright... BUT i'm trying to train myself on just front brake...

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why? if it was safer to use only the front brake then the manufacturer wouldn't have put a rear brake on it and the professional racers wouldn't have one. the rear brake can be very useful if you use it correctly. I use mine a lot for just minor slowing at times but i want to keep the bike's weight settled.
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why do so many rely on the rear brake. I hardly use mine at all. Its useless unless you want to see the wheel come around on you. The front brakes should be the majority of your braking on a rocket.
this part is mostly true... but the rear brake being useless... see my above post
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I use mine a lot for just minor slowing at times but i want to keep the bike's weight settled.
Works at speed as well.
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what I mean is the pressure you apply and braking force of rear is very little. You will skid for ever with rear only. I use mine at low speeds and with very little pressure at high speed. It does not do a whole of a lot on a 400 pound bike. I am speaking for road riding not racing or busa with a sissy bar riding.
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yes - but only with the front brake, right? or only in slow maneuvers and light braking...?
i dont use the rear unless both my hands are off the handlebar stretching and im coming to a stop. not so much slow manuvering.

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i find it helpful at low speeds, and where you aren't fully upright... BUT i'm trying to train myself on just front brake...
train yourslef to only use the front brake only? why would you want to do that? you can stop/slow down faster using both. 70% front, 30% back.
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what I mean is the pressure you apply and braking force of rear is very little. You will skid for ever with rear only. I use mine at low speeds and with very little pressure at high speed. It does not do a whole of a lot on a 400 pound bike. I am speaking for road riding not racing or busa with a sissy bar riding.
it doesn't do a of a lot on a 500 pound busa either... but it does enable the bike to do slightly more than the front could by itself
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but it does enable the bike to do slightly more than the front could by itself
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100% ft brake is incorrect
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70-80-90% ft
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