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Old 03-17-2008, 09:27 PM   #21
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Our BSS 2004 R6 made 125RWBHP (on Elf 104 octane race fuel) at its best.
standard pistons (by regulation), tuned head, kit loom, cams etc etc
lasted just about the whole season (with one refresh) by which time it had dropped to 117BHP before it imploded.

Simon Andrews on the Piranha Yamaha running full Motec ignition and YEC kit had 132RWBHP on Elf 104 Octane race fuel it is reliably rumoured.
Still less than the Hondas at that time !!

Both these bikes ran in the British Supersport championship equivalent to your AMA.

The 2008 R6 being tuned for AW who rode the 04 R6 is making 138RWBHP even before the compression has been.................. "fettled"
first proper shakedown tests this weekend at Donnington Park :thumb
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:38 PM   #22
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FWIW, most European dynos use the metric / DIN / ECE formula for calculating HP, VS SAE for most U.S. dynos.
When comparing dyno numbers, keep this in mind.

The DIN / ECE calculation is a bit more "generous" than it's U.S. counterpart.

With most of the SS 600's producing 105-110 rwhp stock, squeezing almost 30% more out of them to acheive 138 without changing displacement is unrealistic.
Mind you, I'm not saying that there's not a 138 hp R6 in England, just that the same bike on a dyno over here would produce significantly less HP.
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:03 AM   #23
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um buy an r1?

not being an , but for the money cc's win everytime

eitherway thats gonna be 1 badass r6
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:12 AM   #24
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FWIW, most European dynos use the metric / DIN / ECE formula for calculating HP, VS SAE for most U.S. dynos.
When comparing dyno numbers, keep this in mind.

The DIN / ECE calculation is a bit more "generous" than it's U.S. counterpart.

With most of the SS 600's producing 105-110 rwhp stock, squeezing almost 30% more out of them to acheive 138 without changing displacement is unrealistic.
Mind you, I'm not saying that there's not a 138 hp R6 in England, just that the same bike on a dyno over here would produce significantly less HP.
Metric horsepower, as a rule, is defined as 0.73549875 kW, or roughly 98.6% of mechanical horsepower.
I understood the differences between our systems of measurement to be fairly marginal.

I am unaware to what state of tune American factory entered 600's are permitted but the 30% figure you mention is entirely achievable over here in Europe wether the starting point be 100BHP or 111BHP ( '08 R6) without altering the displacement which is prohibited under our SuperSport 600 regulations.
This is of course allowing for very very deep pockets.

That said, most Dyno's will read differently and should really only be used as a diagnostic/honing tool.

Put the kettle on, when I come by in a couple of weeks I'll try and bring some dyno sheets from said 08 R6 for you to peruse and we'll chew some fat and drink some tea
If I'm wrong I'll be more than happy to eat some humble pie too
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um buy an r1?
Because I wanted to do it to my r6
not being an , but for the money cc's win everytime
High-Tech beats CC everyday example f1 car over nascar or any other antique racing

eitherway thats gonna be 1 badass r6
Thanks I sure hope it turns out ok
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