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Old 06-29-2007, 09:28 AM   #41
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What you guys are missing is that Lojack requires that an officer have the LoJack monitoring system installed in their vehicle. It does NOT give a location to where you are nor does it send an alert to the police directly. I have flown all over town with the DPS helicopter and used the Lojack tracking monitors. It only gives an approximate location and not a definite one. It does not show any tracking history and has no active mode to contact anyone should your bike be stolen. Lojack has to be activated by YOU, once you have discovered your bike has been JACKED!! By then its in a container or the Lojack has been found by the criminal who has JACKED your bike, thus yanked and thown into a garbage can somewhere! There goes your $500 plus install! Oh yeah... if you think you can recover $5K from Lojack, find someone who has gotten a payment from them. Phantom has a record of 100% recovery with their system within 24 hours! Most with no damage at all.

So... save a few dollars and buy the Lojack. While you are sleeping at night and someone is stripping your bike apart for the next great deal on Craig's List or Ebay, you can bet they have found the Lojack and it will turn up hours later with a dead battery backup or in a ditch.

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While that may be true, the same can be done to the Phantom system, found during disassembly and then removed.

FWIW, since it's inception here in Houston, only 1 bike that was stolen has not been recovered. Pretty good odds if you ask me.

Please don't take me the wrong way, the Phantom deal sounds pretty good, albeit more expensive.
One variable when using any GPS/GMS system, if the satellites view is obstucted, say inside a metal building, signal will be diminished / lost.

Also, as was mentioned earlier, because the vehile is being tracked all of the time, the data CAN be used both by insurance companies and possibly even law enforcement AGAINST the owner of the bike.
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While that may be true, the same can be done to the Phantom system, found during disassembly and then removed.

FWIW, since it's inception here in Houston, only 1 bike that was stolen has not been recovered. Pretty good odds if you ask me.

Please don't take me the wrong way, the Phantom deal sounds pretty good, albeit more expensive.
One variable when using any GPS/GMS system, if the satellites view is obstucted, say inside a metal building, signal will be diminished / lost.

Also, as was mentioned earlier, because the vehile is being tracked all of the time, the data CAN be used both by insurance companies and possibly even law enforcement AGAINST the owner of the bike.

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if it has gsm/gprs triband signal then you dont have to worry about signals being blocked in a building. That is the same signals cell phones use, and i'll put my money on it that phantom is using the cell phones sat. This makes it extremely easy to triangulate the signal.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:19 AM   #46
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if you go back to one of your previous post you stated that if you were to crash they try to call, if you dont answer THEY CHECK TO MAKE SURE BIKE IS STILL IN SAME LOCATION SIGNAL WAS SENT FROM before the call 911...so its bein tracked all the time. there is a tracking system in the truck i drive for work and its always on, all the remote does is arm the alarm and tell custom service that its armed so if it goes off they are ready

it sounds like an awsome item, just cut the price...and prove it isnt contantly tracked
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