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Old 03-14-2015, 03:44 PM   #1
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Unhappy Suffering from severe PMS!!!

SO! here is what happened...On Ash Wednesday, I rode my 2007 Ninja 250 to class at Spring Branch campus...when I arrived at the designated motorcycle parking area, I dropped my bike on it's left side...

A nice guy was walking along the parking area and helped me pick it up....after we picked it up I was able to start it, ride it, and park it properly...then I cut it off and went inside to class which was two hours.

After class, I went outside started it and began my ride back to the SW side of I got on I-10 East at Gessner, the bike died but I was able to coast to the emergency lane and restart it as I was this point I was then able to ride down to the Bingle/Echo Lane when it started sputtering again so I decided to exit and pull into the Chase Bank Parking the time I made it into the parking lot I was coasting again and it was in the parking lot that I tried multiple times to start it to no avail...So I had to call my husband to come pick me and the bike up...of course he was not too happy but that is a story for another time...this happened right at rush hour and by the time we got it home it was already 8:00 at night!...

I have repeatedly tried to start it since then and it just won't fire up...I added new gas, even had to get a new battery because the old one (purchased last April and still under warranty) was already bad...and it still won't fire up....

The engine turns but it seems that is all it is doing...from what I can tell it isn't firing at I guess that is my next remove the gas tank and check the spark plugs...but what really boggles my mind is all this from one drop?...and I don't even know what could have happened since it was dropped on the left side.

SO, all that to ask this ...if any of you guys have any suggestions or ideas about what the problem might be or what I should be checking it would really be appreciated!!!

Thanks in advance!

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Seen lots of bikes foul plugs when they're dropped. A little oil gets on the plugs & then turns to carbon as you ride a few more miles.

Just plan on replacing them.
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Fell on it's side. Chances are that oil got into the airbox. I believe you have a crankcase breather tube that goes directly from the engine case to the airbox. So, when you fell over oil seeped into the airbox. As you ran the motor, that oil went into the carbs and into the engine. Probably fouled the plugs. Might want to empty the float bowls just to make sure the gas is clean. And clean the air filter and airbox. Don't fool with the carbs taking them off, or you might get them out of sync.
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SO! is the deal...still suffering from extreme PMS!!!!!

I've changed the plugs, got a new battery, even tried manually opening the floats so gas can flow in...and it just won't turns over but it really doesn't seem to be firing even with the new plugs...

any ideas?

also, anyone who would like to help me troubleshoot this just for the fun of it... unfortunately I don't have any money right now, and wont until the middle/closer to end of's already been over a month that it hasn't started!!!....and i really am stumped! just wondering?


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what diagnostics have you done? As in have you tried to pull off one of the plug wires and check to see if it's firing. and on the fuel issue. There are 2 ways right off hand that I can think of to check.
And one is to spray 100% silicone spray into the breather while your turning it over. If it's getting fire/spark but not fuel it should fire off and will even run as long as you spray it. And the silicone spray won't damage the engine.

Another is to remove the sparkplugs and then drop a few drops of fuel into the cylinders. Screw the plug back in (quickly) and turn it over. It will only fire for a couple of seconds at best. If that happens it def. a lack of fuel related issue.
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Originally Posted by Stella View Post
SO! is the deal...still suffering from extreme PMS!!!!!

For over two weeks? Wow. You must have a very understanding husband.

I've changed the plugs, What did they look like? Were they wet, oily, etc.?
got a new battery,
even tried manually opening the floatsHuh? 'Splain, please.

and it just won't turns over but it really doesn't seem to be firing even with the new plugs...

any ideas?
Ideas, yes. Check your air filter. When you dropped it oil might have found its way into your airbox. The longer it stayed on its side, the more oil might be there. If you see signs of oil, change the filter, wipe the oil out of the air box and proceed below.

You've already pulled the plugs once. Do it again, but this time reconnect the wires once you have them out. Hold them with a pair of pliers and turn the bike over a few times. You're looking for spark. The brighter it is in the garage/outside the harder it'll be to see it. If there's too much ambient light, you might only see a hair-thin spark. Before you turn the bike over sans plugs, put a rag over the spark plug hole. When you're done, check the rag. It should at the most have a damp spot. Anything more than that and you'll want to put the rag back and turn it over a few more times to clear out the cylinder. If there's no spark, troubleshoot the electrical side.

If you have spark, focus on the fuel side. First thing I'd do is yank the carbs. Carbs are much easier than people think as long as you don't separate them. Once they're off, you'll see a smallish screw on the side that more or less lines up with a half inch long nipple on the bottom. That's your drain screw. Loosen it while holding the carbs over a container of some kind to catch the fuel. If none comes out, troubleshoot back up to your tank. This included the petcock. Speaking of the petcock...have you checked it? If not, do this first. Make sure it's fully in the "On" position. I doubt the drop would have moved it, but it might have gotten bumped while arm wrestling it to stand it back up.

If you have fuel, remove the bowls, floats, and jets, and take a peek. Be careful removing the bowl screws, as these are typically very soft. Specifically, go slow and don't use a screwdriver that's too small. Once you get it apart, you'll be looking for varnish...specifically in the jets and on the float. Clean up any varnish (a single bristle from a wire brush will work on the jets), reassemble, reinstall and try again. If there's a lot of varnish and you're feeling froggy, soak the disassembled carbs in Pine-Sol for a few days. It'll remove varnish like a champ.

You can do all this yourself with very basic tools, and aside from soaking the carbs, it won't take you more than a day.
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