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Old 03-08-2015, 12:46 PM   #1
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Friend of mine wants to get his girlfriend into an MSF sometime soon. He wasn't happy with the condition of the school bikes @ Awesome; said they were beat up older machines (He's into Euro bikes, guess he has high standards). Not trying to bash anybody - don't shoot the messenger! Wondering if anyone can compare across schools in the Houston area, which schools have a relatively new inventory of bikes?

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really? does he expect the new bikes? If they were unsafe i can see it being an issue, but i doubt their bikes are unsafe. Challen has been a sponser on here for a while, and i have never heard of any issues. I think your friend is being too superficial. These bikes are meant to show people the basics of riding a motorcycle, not be pretty. You can always take your own bike.....
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Your friend seems like quite the snob. Course bikes are all going to be beat up to some extent. There is always an option to take the course on your own bike, so tell him to stfu and go that route
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Those poor msf bikes get dropped all day long because some of the students that sign up have never even been on a bike and much less know how to properly operate one . Tell your douche friend to let his girl take the course on his euro bike and see what he says
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I had already been riding awhile when I took the course, but I'll say the fact the the little 250 Suzuki had dents, dings and scraps actually put me more at ease. I could tell that a drop wast a huge deal. It made me relax.
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Sort of like letting a Chinese woman learn how to drive in a Ferrari! Just totally insane! Those bikes are crappy; but serve their purposes very well! It's been eons ago since I took my course at Spring Branch; but they used little 150 CC and 250 CC bikes. I do remember that every one of those little bikes survived 2 days of riding, shifting, braking, and stopping! So tell your friend to put his and his GF's vanity aside for 2 days and once she passes her test she can get a brand new Superlagerra!
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Tell the dude to his girlfriend ride his bike for the class and see if he still feels the same way...
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Man, so much hate! I agree w. everybody here; I actually prefer to learn on a beater as well.

Like I said, asking for a friend

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Man, so much hate! I agree w. everybody here; I actually prefer to learn on a beater as well.

Like I said, asking for a friend

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Uhh huh asking for a friend
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Man, so much hate! I agree w. everybody here; I actually prefer to learn on a beater as well.

Like I said, asking for a friend

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So what were you expecting to hear?
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Depends on where they take the class. State owned training bikes are approaching 8 years of age or older depending on model. It is up to the sponsors to maintain and or repair damage to keep them in operation. Yes they may be beat up but for the most part have held up well. Other sponsors are able to rotate their training fleet every 1-2 years. Currently we're testing a new bike to see how it will hold up in the long term-so far it has been very encouraging. As far as your friend expecting a new ride for training purposes, just isn't going to happen. Like in previous posts he is more than welcome to let her use his in the class if he doesn't like the condition or choice of bike that is provided for training.
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Robert, get them to do their own account and have them ask for themselves.

(I love Awesome Cycles, and dropped their bike on them...they didn't even blink an eye)
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I teach for MTC and have to say our bikes may look a little beat up with a ding or two, but they run and run well. We keep up on all the PM on them and (in Rosenberg) even wash/wax them when we can. They are TRAINING bikes for a reason. But they are SAFE! There is not a single training bike out on our range I wouldn't hesitate to throw a leg over and ride. There may be a few of the Harley Rider Edge course using the new 500cc H-D, but I have heard those bikes don't really fit shorter rider too well.

Honestly, if the guy is worried about the looks of a training bike, then he has other issues....
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Training bikes are bound to be beat up with dents and scratches all over them. He's not going to find an MSF school with new bikes or a euro bike in the mix. Unless its a brand new school that's just opening, he needs to suck it up and use what bikes are there.
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i was on a brand new bike as MRH.... the trainers try to give the nicer bikes to somewhat experienced riders and the beat up ones go to newbies

just get his gf to say she has 5 years experience track racing GSXR750 and is ready to take the MSF to ride on the street
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just get his gf to say she has 5 years experience track racing GSXR750 and is ready to take the MSF to ride on the street
LOL, good call.

I signed my gf up for the SBISD class that was held last weekend. She got stuck on a 125cc cruiser (I hate the ergonomics of a cruiser, you've got much better control in a standard riding position). Her legs are almost as long as mine, she could have easily ridden the Suzuki SU-250. They had two brand-new SU-250s, but you're right - they only brought out one of those for the OG who'd been riding a long time.

She had a great time, passed by a healthy margin, and didn't drop her bike once last weekend, or put her foot down in the box. I wish the instructor would go on a word diet, though. He was a really, really nice guy but one of those people who don't get the concept of 'less is more'. Never use three words when three thousand will do...

My Euro-snob friend & his gf didn't make it out for her to get her certificate. They missed the Saturday rain, at least. Sunday was gorgeous; I spent most of the morning sweeping out the huge puddles left on the range from Saturday.
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just get his gf to say she has 5 years experience track racing GSXR750 and is ready to take the MSF to ride on the street
As she low-slides on the new bike.. I can see it now...
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LOL, good call.

I signed my gf up for the SBISD class that was held last weekend. She got stuck on a 125cc cruiser (I hate the ergonomics of a cruiser, you've got much better control in a standard riding position). Her legs are almost as long as mine, she could have easily ridden the Suzuki SU-250. They had two brand-new SU-250s, but you're right - they only brought out one of those for the OG who'd been riding a long time.

She had a great time, passed by a healthy margin, and didn't drop her bike once last weekend, or put her foot down in the box. I wish the instructor would go on a word diet, though. He was a really, really nice guy but one of those people who don't get the concept of 'less is more'. Never use three words when three thousand will do...

My Euro-snob friend & his gf didn't make it out for her to get her certificate. They missed the Saturday rain, at least. Sunday was gorgeous; I spent most of the morning sweeping out the huge puddles left on the range from Saturday.
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He's a teacher, imagine how long his class are, lol

Glad she enjoyed it!

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Friend of mine wants to get his girlfriend into an MSF sometime soon. He wasn't happy with the condition of the school bikes @ Awesome; said they were beat up older machines (He's into Euro bikes, guess he has high standards). Not trying to bash anybody - don't shoot the messenger! Wondering if anyone can compare across schools in the Houston area, which schools have a relatively new inventory of bikes?

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I believe Harley Davidson offers some sort. Apparently a large portion of the class is them trying to sell you a HD...
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I thought the beat up bikes were fun. I remember trying to see if I could get one of the pegs ripped off of it by the end of the day. I failed. They are on there better than I thought.
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