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Old 05-21-2007, 03:35 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Ulric
"Then show me where it says that the bikers were drunk and speeding. I missed that.
This is the point of the guy's email: Traffic laws, which are intended to ensure safety of others around you, are not being enforced. Instead the focus is on the rider who is only putting himself in danger by not wearing a helmet. Plain and simple."

Show me where any REAL accurate information is provided...

"1. Motorcyclist James Bragg, 43, was killed when his bike was rear-ended by an automobile driver. And the cager's penalty for this right-of-way violation? No ticket has been issued, and no arrest has been made."

Date, how long was the investigation?

"2. Motorcyclist Donny Macklen, 51, was killed in a crash caused by an automobile driver violating his right-of-way and turning left in front of him. And the penalty? No mention of any charges."
and if Donny was doing 75 in a 35...maybe that might have had some bearing in regards to this?

The short of it is, there's not enough data provided to make judgement...but all factors need involving in an accident need to be taken in consideration in situations like these before any 'punishment' in meted out.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:42 PM   #22
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I think all incidents should be treated indivually and not clumped together as cager kills biker accidents . There isnt enough information given of each to make a comment other than RIP.
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:14 PM   #23
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In my opinion - I believe that people all over the United States in particular Houston DO NOT respect motorcycle riders....They follow us to close, at times cut us off when we are not riding defensively and not speeding, etc, etc....I feel as though laws should be increased for individuals that are not paying attention putting make up on, trying to send text messages, reading news papers and books while driving, spanking kids in the back seat while driving, and folks that are to lazy to look over their shoulder instead of solely trusting their mirrors which usually are quick glance and go....

Laws should be increased to protect the intrest of us motorcylce riders from neglegent drivers....Just my two cents....
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:16 PM   #24
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Why do most Houston drivers NOT use blinkers? You would think that in a city this size it would be a big deal.
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"In my opinion - I believe that people all over the United States in particular Houston DO NOT respect motorcycle riders....They follow us to close, at times cut us off when we are not riding defensively and not speeding, etc, etc."

I don't think it's so much they don't respect Motoryclists, they don't respect anyone period. There are riders with the same attitude, it's just there are a lot more cages than there are bikes.

Remember the old talk of the 'Me generation'...

Hauling doing 2x+ the posted limit, passing on the right, or in no-pass zones, road rage. all because 'my' destination/schedule is more important than what 'yours' might be.
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Originally Posted by bdmpastx
Interesting email I keep getting from this guy

Ok so we have had a lot of crashes and deaths this year as a result of the motorcyclist, a person in a cage or what have you. Then this guy sends me this. It makes me kind of upset. It makes me upset because he tends to put the blame on people in cages. Yes, they might have caused the crash by making a simple mistake. One that might not have killed someone had they been in a car. But the fact of the matter is that these are minor accidents that turned into fatalities. There is no mention of safety gear, helmets, speeding on the MCís part, alcohol, drugs, no MSF, no MC license or a combination. All of these guys were going to/leaving from a MC rally in NC which leads me to believe that they were not wearing protective gear. He makes it seem that he wants the death penalty for anyone that has an accident with a guy on a MC. While it is sad that these guys died, all of the burden should not be placed on the cagerís head. Accidents are just that, accidents. If this cager did the same to another car, the citation would be issued and weíd call it a day. It is the cost of doing business so to speak. It isnít the cagerís fault that the guy on the MC didnít want to wear the gear or was perhaps speeding. I think that we as motorcyclist need to own up to our responsibility before someone else like the lawyers and legislators come up with a way to enforce something upon us that we may not like. So gear up, stay aware and always have a way out when you are riding.
to be honest i go with the helmet law. why no? is for your own protection
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