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Old 01-17-2014, 12:31 PM   #221
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Old 01-17-2014, 12:47 PM   #222
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This is my only problem with the tolls. When it started out it was $1 and they keep raising the toll price. I was OK with it at $1 but $1.75 and rising. I find other ways of getting around the city.



Shelnutt you argue too much and sound like a punk kid.
You and Bevo sound like a couple of old grannies about their yarn getting knotted up.

Better a punk kid stealing from a company that steals from me then a couple of douchebags who feel the need to moderate every thread with whats right and whats wrong.

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You and Bevo sound like a couple of old grannies about their yarn getting knotted up.

Better a punk kid stealing from a company that steals from me then a couple of douchebags who feel the need to moderate every thread with whats right and whats wrong.

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you sound like a Democrat...
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As to what CraigRR said -- It used to be that tolls were in place until that particular road was paid off. Then they would take out the toll booths and there were no more tolls. But the legislature realized that there was no requirement to stop charging. Now they use the excess funds for general road purposes (not sure just in Houston or elsewhere around the state).

It's bullshit because people here are busting to get to jobs and pay extra for roads. I can't believe how much the tolls are.
I think it's pretty much nation wide. I grew up in Florida and they pulled the same . When it opened the toll was .25 cents and was supposed to be free once it was paid off.

When I moved to Houston, it was up to 1.50 and they had added numerous booths along the way. It had been paid off since the 80's

I think state/county governments look at examples where others have gotten away with the people who live there over and they follow the example.

As far as excess funds go; I can't find any info anywhere that say's they have used more than 0% of the money to fund anything other than maintenance on toll roads and building more toll roads.
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As far as excess funds go; I can't find any info anywhere that say's they have used more than 0% of the money to fund anything other than maintenance on toll roads and building more toll roads.

Here you go then, from page 12 (page 18 of 73 of the pdf) of the financial summary
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Transfers consisted of transfers out of $120,035,799 and transfers in of $86,523. The largest component
of transfers out was a $120 million allocation to fund non-toll County road or enhancement projects. The
transfers in was for a capital asset transfer.
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Here you go then, from page 12 (page 18 of 73 of the pdf) of the financial summary
The problem with that report is that it was generated by French Models that work in the accounting office at HCTRA...no one ever bullshits their accounting, right?

I'd be interested in some third party info.
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Considering that they owe about $2.4 BN in bonds, I'm guessing that this is a legally required document. I think this is about as "reliable" as you're going to get.
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The problem with that report is that it was generated by French Models that work in the accounting office at HCTRA...no one ever bullshits their accounting, right?

I'd be interested in some third party info.
If you bothered to read it, it was audited by an independent accounting firm and includes their statement.

You're not interested in learning. You want to about things you don't understand.
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If you bothered to read it, it was audited by an independent accounting firm and includes their statement.

You're not interested in learning. You want to about things you don't understand.
You sound like a Libertarian.
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You're not interested in learning. You want to about things you don't understand.
No I didn't read it. This thread has been one huge joke to me and probably everyone else on the site except for You since page 2. At this point it's just for entertainment purposes.

I was never interested in a political debate in the first place. I'm more interesting in managing my own funds than in how the county manages theirs.
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No I didn't read it. This thread has been one huge joke to me and probably everyone else on the site except for You since page 2. At this point it's just for entertainment purposes.

I was never interested in a political debate in the first place. I'm more interesting in managing my own funds than in how the county manages theirs.
The HCTRA funds are well managed. I can't speak for your financial status, that's on Obama. You're welcome
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