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Old 01-30-2013, 04:45 PM   #1
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Should I go on a Group ride decision matrix

Should you go on a group ride. Based on topics of conversation/threads I pulled this together for better or worse. Be honest and write in your scores and see where you stand.
I am sure it neds refinement so provide some feedback. Next iteration will be a flowchart.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:51 PM   #2
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very good idea!
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I like the idea, but there's a flaw in the logic.

Stats show riders that crash most often are experienced between 6-18 months.

A little experience and an ever-growing ego presents problems much later, rather than right at the beginning.
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You are the master. Lets make it right. A bit more discussion and it may be a useful too.
So maybe a question. Do you feel the need to keep up with the people ahead of you? always -30, sometimes -20, never 10?
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I think something like the SMR can be a lot more helpful if it can be structured more like the track day groups: A, B, and C.

On the several I rode in, what I find is that when I rode near the front with the "big boys", I could keep up just fine in the corners, but most of the guys like to go bonsai on the straights too, which I'd rather not. So I drop back to the tail, where a lot of the noobs carry no confidence in the corners, so they slow way down. Then they go 100mph in the straight trying to catch up.

Ideally, besides the lead A group, There should be two smaller groups:

B: Seasoned riders who don't care to go -out, but rather ride at the proverbial "The Pace". Maintaining momentum through the corners/sweepers, but moderate speed on the straights for the slower riders to catch up and the pack to regroup & stay tight. Passing is allowed, though discouraged.

C: Beginners only. Lead rider tows the ducklings at posted speed limit and takes corners at speeds appropriate for noobs. Mostly to acclimate new riders to riding in a pack and following the line. Passing is strictly prohibited.

If I know the route well enough, I wouldn't mind leading the B or C group. So far, I haven't ridden the PP46 enough times not to get lost.
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I think something like the SMR can be a lot more helpful if it can be structured more like the track day groups: A, B, and C.

On the several I rode in, what I find is that when I rode near the front with the "big boys", I could keep up just fine in the corners, but most of the guys like to go bonsai on the straights too, which I'd rather not. So I drop back to the tail, where a lot of the noobs carry no confidence in the corners, so they slow way down. Then they go 100mph in the straight trying to catch up.

Ideally, besides the lead A group, There should be two smaller groups:

B: Seasoned riders who don't care to go -out, but rather ride at the proverbial "The Pace". Maintaining momentum through the corners/sweepers, but moderate speed on the straights for the slower riders to catch up and the pack to regroup & stay tight. Passing is allowed, though discouraged.

C: Beginners only. Lead rider tows the ducklings at posted speed limit and takes corners at speeds appropriate for noobs. Mostly to acclimate new riders to riding in a pack and following the line. Passing is strictly prohibited.

If I know the route well enough, I wouldn't mind leading the B or C group. So far, I haven't ridden the PP46 enough times not to get lost.
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I think something like the SMR can be a lot more helpful if it can be structured more like the track day groups: A, B, and C.

On the several I rode in, what I find is that when I rode near the front with the "big boys", I could keep up just fine in the corners, but most of the guys like to go bonsai on the straights too, which I'd rather not. So I drop back to the tail, where a lot of the noobs carry no confidence in the corners, so they slow way down. Then they go 100mph in the straight trying to catch up.

Ideally, besides the lead A group, There should be two smaller groups:

B: Seasoned riders who don't care to go -out, but rather ride at the proverbial "The Pace". Maintaining momentum through the corners/sweepers, but moderate speed on the straights for the slower riders to catch up and the pack to regroup & stay tight. Passing is allowed, though discouraged.

C: Beginners only. Lead rider tows the ducklings at posted speed limit and takes corners at speeds appropriate for noobs. Mostly to acclimate new riders to riding in a pack and following the line. Passing is strictly prohibited.

If I know the route well enough, I wouldn't mind leading the B or C group. So far, I haven't ridden the PP46 enough times not to get lost.
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After seeing firsthand the aftermath of a noob caused rear-end accident on the lsr its just not worth it anymore, imo
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Should I go on a Group ride decision matrix

Actually the amount of months they have been riding doesnt show how much skill they have. For about 7-8 months only thing i knew was how to go straight.
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Actually the amount of months they have been riding doesnt show how much skill they have. For about 7-8 months only thing i knew was how to go straight.
You mean you have made progress
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Actually the amount of months they have been riding doesnt show how much skill they have. For about 7-8 months only thing i knew was how to go straight.
So when are you gonna start learning to turn and lean?
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