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Old 12-03-2012, 03:53 PM   #1
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Who makes the most reliable engine?

Out of the 4 big manufacturers which one of them makes the most relibale "indestructable" engine. Looking for various examples of high mileage bikes. This discussion is limited to the sport bike group. The bikes must have been properly and timely maintained and not raced or road hard and put up wet. I see some guys getting 30-40K miles plus on various sport bikes, even on some of the race-type bikes. Don't want to start any bewteen the Kawi vs. Yamaha guys, or the Honda vs. the Suzuki guys. Just trying to see who is getting how many miles on what. Obviously your riding style and purpose plays a huge factor in this equation. Thanks community.
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.. That's a tough question.. I'd dare to say it will be between Honda and Yamaha
Only a very experienced mechanic could shine on this
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The bikes must have been properly and timely maintained and not raced or road hard and put up wet..
Good luck with that
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.. That's a tough question.. I'd dare to say it will be between Honda and Yamaha
Only a very experienced mechanic could shine on this
I know Honda cars run forever, that's why I have two of them in my garage; but never owned a Honda motorcycle.
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in my cycle world mags I just got there was a Honda 929 I think with 200,000

somebody here could link the article I'm sure
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My buddy was telling about this guy from Aregentina that went around the world in a Gold Wing and actually clocked 1M miles. The bike is in Japan. That is crazy!
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What engine?

They ALL have their stong engines and some the other way.

My FZ1 is just turning 60K, not uncommon for 100K
I have seen DR 650s 400s and 250s that have 30-85K, and these are air/oil cooled engines.

Not too uncommon for the KLR to run 80k or more before a rebuild.
Honda's XR650L too.

Then you have the FJR that go 100K....

See my point, so be a bit more specific. I doubt you'll find the type of answer you are looking for.

IMHO They all have done an overall fantastic job of engineering and building bikes and engines.

Now if you toss in the Euro manufacturers, by , then we can have same damned interesting posts
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My cousin used to manage a shop that does motorcycle repairs and personally worked on a CBR 900RR with around 100k miles. One thing to look for in longevity is oil capacity...Honda's typically take more oil than the others, and I think that is one thing that allows them to last so long.
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Depends on the engine.
I have a 2001 Intruder at the shop that we've done the maintenance on since the beginning. It has a tad over 107,000 miles on it.
On the flip side of that I haven't seen many GS500's go past 30k.
The other brands have similar stories.
Added to the engine is the peripherals: fuel injection, charging system, water pumps, brake components, etc.
Imo in terms of overall reliability the brands go like this:
Honda first, Kawasaki and Yamaha tied for second, and Suzuki third.
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What engine?

They ALL have their stong engines and some the other way.

My FZ1 is just turning 60K, not uncommon for 100K
I have seen DR 650s 400s and 250s that have 30-85K, and these are air/oil cooled engines.

Not too uncommon for the KLR to run 80k or more before a rebuild.
Honda's XR650L too.

Then you have the FJR that go 100K....

See my point, so be a bit more specific. I doubt you'll find the type of answer you are looking for.

IMHO They all have done an overall fantastic job of engineering and building bikes and engines.

Now if you toss in the Euro manufacturers, by , then we can have same damned interesting posts
Yeah I know I am being pretty vague and general. I just hear that Honda motors seem to get more life out of them than the other 3.
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My cousin used to manage a shop that does motorcycle repairs and personally worked on a CBR 900RR with around 100k miles. One thing to look for in longevity is oil capacity...Honda's typically take more oil than the others, and I think that is one thing that allows them to last so long.
Incorrect, most motorcycles 600-1200cc take 3.5-3.8 quarts.
Honda's typically last longer due to tighter initial tolerances and not stressing the motors in order to wring out every last bit of HP. That's also why Honda's HP figures are typically lower than the competitions.
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Depends on the engine.
I have a 2001 Intruder at the shop that we've done the maintenance on since the beginning. It has a tad over 107,000 miles on it.
On the flip side of that I haven't seen many GS500's go past 30k.
The other brands have similar stories.
Add to the engine is the peripherals: fuel injection, charging system, water pumps, brake components, etc.
Imo in terms of overall reliability the brands go like this:
Honda first, Kawasaki and Yamaha tied for second, and Suzuki third.
Thanks Patrick. I am in the market for a back-up bike and have been looking at the older VFR's. Seeing as my main bike is an RC8R, not really the model for high mileage.
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Thanks Patrick. I am in the market for a back-up bike and have been looking at the older VFR's. Seeing as my main bike is an RC8R, not really the model for high mileage.
If you have an RC8R, then you should already have a second bike. It is mandatory for KTM owners to have multiple bikes or a very good man cave of tools and parts.


I wouldn't have a problem with buying any Japanese bike, although, I prefer the Euro market with Aprilia leading my choice.

Anything with a Rotax engine in it is a sure bet.....don't know about the aircraft Rotaxs'.

BMW's Boxer engine seems to run for 100K, final drives... that is a thread in it own.

Ducati falls in line with KTM.......but they are damned fun to twist the out of. Very fun

, Triumph is even getting their engines super reliable. The 1050 Triple is a fantastic engine. Seen Sprints run for 100K +.

I leave my opinions on Harley out of this equalization, due to my dislike. I am sure they are just like everyone else but with a WAY better marketing department.

I am not sure what mfg. would be your best bet
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[QUOTE=Truckin_Thumper;3426772]If you have an RC8R, then you should already have a second bike. It is mandatory for KTM owners to have multiple bikes or a very good man cave of tools and parts.


That's what I am working on. Just had to plead my case to the wife!
She thinks one bike is plenty!
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