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Old 09-28-2011, 12:31 AM   #1
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Need opinions

Hello everyone! I'm new here and new to riding. I've completed all my courses and have my license (Awesome Cycles is greatness btw) and I'm looking for my first bike.

Basically, I want something sporty, but that offers a more comfortable riding position and isn't such a death rocket like the aggressive sport bikes. I'm about 6 feet and 235lbs.

The two bikes I've really been looking at are the Yamaha FZ6R and ninja 650r. So first I was wondering if anyone has any feedback between these two.

Secondly, it seems the banks aren't wanting to finance anything that could be classified as a "sport" bike, so a dealer tried listing a sport-touring bike and got it approved. The only bike he has in the shop that they would bite on is a 2009 bandit 1250s. He is insistent that because it's a more touring oriented bike, it won't be overwhelming in spite of being a 1250. I really like the bike and it would fit my needs (long highway commute with no traffic during the week and lots of weekend fun) but it seems like that is an awful lot of bike for a newbie. Am I right to think it's too much bike? Is he right that being a touring bike would make it more manageable? Or, is he just trying to make a sale at the risk of me killing myself?

Third, anyone have any other suggestions?
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:43 AM   #2
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The bikes mentioned (FZ6, 650r) are good bikes. Also, consider adding SV650s to your list.

I'm not a big fan of financing a first bike. Depending on your situation I would pay cash and buy something on the cheap. For example, SVs can be bought for 1500-3k all day long and are considered to be great bikes for all riders.

The bandit 1250s is WAY too much bike for a new rider IMO. Although, some will tell you start on a big bike blah blah blah.... plz ignore them.

Remember, you will also need to buy gear. Count on spending 500-1000 depending on the quality you buy.

You are starting at the right time. The temps are cooling down and it's a buyer's market at the moment.

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Old 09-28-2011, 01:15 AM   #3
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I've ridden a 650r and I currently own an FZ6R. Both are great but I took the Yamaha because I like the instrumentation better.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:03 AM   #4
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I wouldn't buy new or finance your first bike. Nobody intends to drop their bike or crash, but if it is going to happen it will surely happen in your first year of riding. Get any mistakes you will make out of the way on a cheap bike that you won't mind beating up. This will save you a lot of money in the long run, especially in insurance.

Even at your size, I'd say go with a used 250 or 500. Neither will have the acceleration of a 650r or fz6r, but they are really forgiving and are pretty much bullet-proof. Also, the acceleration you get out of either will not be dangerously slow.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:18 AM   #5
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All good opinions and I'm sure there will be more to follow. A lot of us started on cheap, used bikes. Bikes that can be bought and sold for a small amount. Dropped and repaired for small amounts and replaced when we have the experience to NOT drop and need to repair them.

Buy used for your first bike. You won't ever regret dropping a used bike the way you will dropping that NEW ~ Over Priced ~ Financed ~ Crazy too big for a Newbie 1250.
Deal with it...
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:21 AM   #6
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The banks dont give a about the bikes classification. He is probably more concerned you will biks about the insurance and back out of the purchase
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:13 PM   #7
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Thanks everyone. The bikes I'm looking at are definitely used and pre-blemished (I know I'll drop it). The financing issue is really more of an instant gratification issue for me. I could pay cash in a few months, or finance it and have the bike now and still have it paid for in a few months. Then, I'll drop the full coverage when it's paid for. So don't be afraid I'm buying some pristine fancy bike.

The insurance quotes have all been reasonable. Actually lower on what I want than what the bank wants me to have. So that's not the issue.

I appreciate the advice about a 250, but I am just physically too uncomfortable on them for the length and type of riding I'll be doing. Based on the way I handled the 250 at the msf course, I feel like I could handle the more user friendly 600s like the fz6r and 650r. There's no way I'd get on an R6 or gsxr.

Keep the responses coming. They've been very helpful. I'd really like to hear more feedback on the fz6r vs. the 650r. I assumed the consensus would be that the bandit is too much for a newbie. Thanks for confirming.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:21 PM   #8
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So how did you do durring your class? Did you almost crass, feel comfey on the bike. Felt like the task they asked you to do were easy?
Would have to suggest a bike based on how well you can ride.
Have you ridden before? Dirtbikes? Quads? First time at the class?
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:13 PM   #9
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Honda cbr600rr. Great bikes. I had an 07 and now an 08 for the track. Can get them pretty cheap too
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:21 PM   #10
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@Gabriel- I feel like I did pretty well in the class. I was confident on the bike, but not comfy. The 250 felt really cramped. After 1-2 repetitions to figure them out, all the exercises felt easy.

The course was my first time to ride.
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:50 PM   #11
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you should research and really compare the 650R, IMO, it's the best bike you can get to begin, good looks, and good stance.. good MPG, and cheap insurance. try getting it used, like an '06+ there's the black/red.. it's an awesome theme, 17" rims, wabble front brakes, easy throttle and a great step to something cooler, faster, meaner, what have you..

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Old 10-01-2011, 03:31 PM   #12
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I started on a Ninja 500, but in three months I had graduated to an FZ6. I think either of those would be reasonable starting bikes.

To me, the FZ6 was a better choice than the FZ6R, because it had the aluminum frame instead of the less costly steel frame. It also has more power, though either one will have more than enough power for me. (I'm not afraid to admit I'm still learning.)

In fact, the Ninja 500 had plenty of power for me, but I wanted the smoothness of the four cylinder engine.
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Old 10-01-2011, 03:46 PM   #13
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Couple other things FYI:

I rode a Kawasaki Versys and found the two cylinder motor to be unpleasantly rough compared to the Yamaha four. I think it's the same engine as in a Ninja 650, so you might take that into consideration.

I also rode a Buell Ulysses XT that I really wanted to like, but the Harley motor was just too lumpy at idle. And I rode a Moto Guzzi Norge that I really liked, but it just felt too big for me at 600+ pounds wet.
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