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Old 06-19-2011, 11:09 AM   #21
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I used to run the same tires in the advanced groups (LSTD,Ride Smart, TTD, LMS, ETC) without any issues. Going to a track tire isn't a bad idea butisn't necessary at novice/intermediate levels. Then again, having extra grip is always nice if you can afford it.
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Originally Posted by ST675 View Post
Is that why you were leaning the bike over while we waited yesterday? I was wondering what you were checking...
+1. When I first turned around I thought he dropped it, untill I saw him pick it up and do it 3 or 4 more times.
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:25 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Dave C View Post
i have been in level 4 with ridesmart and TTD advanced running metzler z6 tires. a sport touring tire and was passing folks left and right . you dont need a different set unless you are a fast sob like all the racers out there. at that point you would probably have already given up the street and just had a dedicated track/race bike.

i wouldnt worry about tires if you are new to the game. you'll know when it's time to get better rubber
So, given that these are street tires, I don't think that heat cycles are a problem, right? -- I think that is what he is concerned about.

I've never done this because I ride in the rain enough on the street that I'd want some grooves left on the sides.
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:00 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by +Travis+ View Post
So, given that these are street tires, I don't think that heat cycles are a problem, right? -- I think that is what he is concerned about.

I've never done this because I ride in the rain enough on the street that I'd want some grooves left on the sides.
i never had a problem with heat cycles. if we were on race rubber that'd be a different story
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Old 06-20-2011, 08:20 PM   #25
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I was there with you at the last track day GSS. I run a set of Q2's. I felt like I was running a decent pace for novice and I didn't notice any tire issues. That was my 3rd track day on those tires. I still have plenty of tread left for 2 or 3 more. I think you should look into all of the others options before you go to buying new tires.

1. Pressure
2. The surface you are riding on.
3. Riding Style (is your style different from track and street?)
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Just my 2 cents. Good luck
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Originally Posted by cbrwayne View Post
No one answered my first question yet..... Probably just better to buy one set strictly for track and one for street use huh ?...
Get some Q2.. but then again it depends on the level you are riding..
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I shredded the shoulders of my tires at the track and rode them on the street until they were smooth again. I had no problem. BT-016 Front and BT-023 Rear. Make sure you raise your tire pressure. The problem is in your head
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:02 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by cbrwayne View Post
Can I use the same tire that i use on he track after a lil abuse , And use them on the streets. ?
I'm not sure but after taken a route I notice a big difference I can't lean bike anymore and I feels awkward and slippery due to all the abuse side wall action made on the track.

It probably feels different because you're used to riding on a sqaured off tire so now the bike may feel "tippy". Almost everyone I know that races / does a lot of track days, uses their track take offs for street riding. I usually have a garage full of rears that I no longer feel comfortable riding on for the track but I wouldn't hesitate to put them on the street for a couple of thousand miles. I am not sure of the condition of your tires prior to your first or second track day at GSS, but I'll lay odds that you haven't abused the side wall so much that they aren't fit for the street.

I hear a lot of talk about heat cycles too. I dont know much about them, other than what I see people type about them. I just try to share my experience rather than parrot what other people say or what I have read. My experience has been that I can take a Dunlop D211GP front tire and run it one race weekend (2 practice sessions and 3 sprints), then I can run it 3 or 4 track days, then I take it off my big bike and put it on our ex250 and do like 10 sprints, 5 track days and maybe 6 hours of endurance racing. Then someone can put it on a street bike and run it for 2000 miles. And that aint no bullshit. I don't know how manyb heat cycles that is, but the tire can take more. , I usually just change the front because of the metal aspect of it.

I second what Tim said...make sure your pressures are up for street duty. If the wear indicators look fine then I'd guess you're good to go. I wouldn't sweat heat cycles.
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The only problem I have ever had with heat cycles was on a Shinko 005 front tire. It is normal for tires to turn blue after being abused, but that goes away after the next ride. The Shinkos turned purple, stayed that color and felt like riding on grease.

This is what I am talking about coloring.. my front BT016 after running Deals Gap a few times..
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