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Old 11-11-2010, 11:06 AM   #1
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Tire bluing

What is the real deal with blue coloration on tires? I picked up a used set of 003's and I wanted to use them for an upcoming trackday but i noticed a nice blue ring on the front one that I picked up. Is it that the rubber compound has lost all of it's gripping characteristics? Is there a limit to how much blue there can be till the tire is considered useless on the track? Is there any recovery from this blueness - maybe a reheat or light scrubbing or something? I've tried searching for more on this topic but couldn't find much. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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u still ride


lol wish I could be more help
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Pretty sure that it is the oils contained within the compound that once heated up move to the surface, but also pretty sure that you will be fine riding them as long as there is adequate tread as there is more oil still within the tire. I'm no expert on tires, but I have "blued" 003r/s before and had no issues with grip the next ride out. I've also mounted track take offs that were "blued" and had no issues on the street. Even ran a set on a track day at TWS (Texas World Speedway) without issue. Pretty normal from what I understand based on the tires composition. John with SCRC will be the one to give you a definitive answer. Stay tuned...
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lol wish I could be more help
yeah, gonna hit GSS for the last time until next season. Wanted to do TWS (Texas World Speedway) one more time but gonna be out of town for awhile after this weekend.
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Pretty sure that it is the oils contained within the compound that once heated up move to the surface, but also pretty sure that you will be fine riding them as long as there is adequate tread as there is more oil still within the tire. I'm no expert on tires, but I have "blued" 003r/s before and had no issues with grip the next ride out. I've also mounted track take offs that were "blued" and had no issues on the street. Even ran a set on a track day at TWS (Texas World Speedway) without issue. Pretty normal from what I understand based on the tires composition. John with SCRC will be the one to give you a definitive answer. Stay tuned...
Thanks for the info. I think I'll be Ok then. I'll have John look at them before I hit the track then. Hopefully he'll be at GSS. I'm sure for my pace they'll be alright.
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It goes away the faster you go, so i guess it will be blue for a while! Just kidding


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What is the real deal with blue coloration on tires? I picked up a used set of 003's and I wanted to use them for an upcoming trackday but i noticed a nice blue ring on the front one that I picked up. Is it that the rubber compound has lost all of it's gripping characteristics? Is there a limit to how much blue there can be till the tire is considered useless on the track? Is there any recovery from this blueness - maybe a reheat or light scrubbing or something? I've tried searching for more on this topic but couldn't find much. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I had blued takeoffs from a level 3 rider. Used it in level 2 and it went away. Does that mean Im slow? LOL...

Never lost grip, So I say its ok!!
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I had blued takeoffs from a level 3 rider. Used it in level 2 and it went away. Does that mean Im slow? LOL...

Never lost grip, So I say its ok!!
no, i am just with keoni, haha!
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it's usually caused by tires cooling down too fast after going back into the pits. tire warmers help reduce it, but grip wise you should be okay.
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It goes away the faster you go, so i guess it will be blue for a while! Just kidding
If that were true then my tires would be bluer than the sky. Hehe.
I see ur sellin the 636. U got another track beast in the stable?
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not yet, trying to decide what i want, i put a 50 tooth on for GSS, it pulls like a now, hard to control now but get 6th gear down the back straight

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it's usually caused by tires cooling down too fast after going back into the pits. tire warmers help reduce it, but grip wise you should be okay.
that's not true. it happens after using the tires on track and then they sit. tires that are black coming off the track and when you put the wheels up, can be blued within a week even when you are using warmers.
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not yet, trying to decide what i want, i put a 50 tooth on for GSS, it pulls like a now, hard to control now but get 6th gear down the back straight
Wow, I bet you have a hard time keeping that front end down.
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for sure, front gets light in about 4 gears, really screwed with my lines and had to work all day to find something that worked for me
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