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Old 10-26-2009, 01:13 PM   #21
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I have a built Honda CRF 100 that is in same class as the KX 65. It's is completely built and very competitive in TMGP this year. Pm me if interested.
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I have a built Honda CRF 100 that is in same class as the KX 65. It's is completely built and very competitive in TMGP this year. Pm me if interested.
Dean the Honda is F7. The Kx65s are F5s. They are not the same class, but if your good - really really good, you can race it up two classes in F5 and maybe podium. I did it all last year... but forget trying to come 1st.

To the orignal poster - you really need to come out to the last race in November (tmgps.8k.com) and see for your self which bike you'd like to get. I have 2 trick Kx65s setup in both "Cafe" and "Tard" form for you to sit and get a feel for.

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Dean the Honda is F7. The Kx65s are F5s. They are not the same class, but if your good - really really good, you can race it up two classes in F5 and maybe podium. I did it all last year... but forget trying to come 1st.

To the orignal poster - you really need to come out to the last race in November (tmgps.8k.com) and see for your self which bike you'd like to get. I have 2 trick Kx65s setup in both "Cafe" and "Tard" form for you to sit and get a feel for.

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That would be great, really appreciate it !
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:11 PM   #24
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Awww man ! I can't go those days . I'm getting married on the 7th ! Dam that sucks !

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Now that CMRA and TMGP have adopted the same class structure a 65 is the motor to have, whether it be a 65 in a dirt chassis, or transplanted into a YSR, RS125, or whatever. One of the fastest bikes out there this year was a de-bored CR85 turned into a 65 and with RS125 mag wheels and forks and all sorts of one off bits and pieces was the hot ticket. The rules, being built around engine size only, allow for some creativity.

In TMGP a 65 can podium if ridden very well. It's a competitive class with lots of hotshoe contenders.

One of the options being weighed by many racers right now is potentially sleeving their 65 this rebuild and using a 60cc piston out of the last generation KX60/65. The power difference is minimal, 1/2 - 2 hp depending on set-up. This puts you in F6 and lessens the competition and decreases the need to build a competitive chassis to make podiums.

And all 3 of you guys who proposed that they sleeve the 65 to a 60 for next year, don't be mad at me for spilling the beans...I mean...3 different guys said they were gonna do the same thing.

And one more thing, I think a set of 110's in front and back work fine on a stock width rim.
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Ok but here is another question . I have found more KTM's for sale than Kawasaki's, I know they are more expensive but I know how good they are. Should i get a 50cc and bore it to 65 or just get a 65sx ?
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Ok but here is another question . I have found more KTM's for sale than Kawasaki's, I know they are more expensive but I know how good they are. Should i get a 50cc and bore it to 65 or just get a 65sx ?
this question would be better answered on ktmtalk.com but imo, i don't think this would be a good idea due to the bottom end.
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i don't think this would be a good idea due to the bottom end.

I don't think it'd be a good idea due to them being huge flaming hunks of ...


lol...I'm not a big fan of the KTM's either, and for the EXACT same reason James doesn't like them






I'd stay away from them though, unless you like rebuilding motors all the time.
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Dean the Honda is F7. The Kx65s are F5s. They are not the same class, but if your good - really really good, you can race it up two classes in F5 and maybe podium. I did it all last year... but forget trying to come 1st.

To the orignal poster - you really need to come out to the last race in November (tmgps.8k.com) and see for your self which bike you'd like to get. I have 2 trick Kx65s setup in both "Cafe" and "Tard" form for you to sit and get a feel for.

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In that case, I would not suggest you start in F5 if you want to be competitive. ( to the OP) Those guys will just run circles around you. Start in F6 or F7 gain some experience and then go after the big boi's. Just 2 penny's worth from me.
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Stay away from the KTM's, and don't overbore a 50. It won't work for you. Get the 65. I sent you some links.
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In that case, I would not suggest you start in F5 if you want to be competitive. ( to the OP) Those guys will just run circles around you. Start in F6 or F7 gain some experience and then go after the big boi's. Just 2 penny's worth from me.
THis man speaks the truth. Starting out in F5 means you better be pretty good or else you become a berm for every other rider
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Oh come on , they aren't bad at all. I ride with tons of guys who ride enduro runs and all of them but a few ride KTM's. My KTM runs great and its 3 years old and never had a problem with it.

But I will stick with a KX65 on this one !
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a smaller motor for racing means you will always be WOT. This is where the KTM fails, as do the rest of the smaller motors. The KTM is a lot more pricey when it comes to rebuilds.

Ask James for a list of acronyms for KTM that I created after his motor seized for the 2nd time this racing season.
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a smaller motor for racing means you will always be WOT. This is where the KTM fails, as do the rest of the smaller motors. The KTM is a lot more pricey when it comes to rebuilds.

Ask James for a list of acronyms for KTM that I created after his motor seized for the 2nd time this racing season.
Hmmmmmm.....3 times isn't it?
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I think 2. We missed 3 races because of the motor though.

Regardless, I dug up the message I sent to James:

KTM - Keep Tossing Money

KTM - Kick Twenty Minutes

KTM - Kost Too Much

KTM - Keep Tools Mobile

KTM - Kill The Mechanic

KTM - Keep Three Manuals

KTM - Kills The Marriage

KTM - Kills the Money

KTM - Known To Malfunction

KTM - Killed the Mood
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I think 2. We missed 3 races because of the motor though.

Regardless, I dug up the message I sent to James:

KTM - Keep Tossing Money

KTM - Kick Twenty Minutes

KTM - Kost Too Much

KTM - Keep Tools Mobile

KTM - Kill The Mechanic

KTM - Keep Three Manuals

KTM - Kills The Marriage

KTM - Kills the Money

KTM - Known To Malfunction

KTM - Killed the Mood
..... I get the picture !
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Well some chick wants $900 for a 2003 . Looks really good , actually looks new. Is that a good price?
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Well some chick wants $900 for a 2003 . Looks really good , actually looks new. Is that a good price?
Yes. That is a good price. I paid $800 for my 65. It's an 03 or 04. Is that one of the links I sent you this morning?
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Yes. That is a good price. I paid $800 for my 65. It's an 03 or 04. Is that one of the links I sent you this morning?
Yup, sure is . Thanks a lot ! Trying to set up a test ride ...etc this weekend.
What should I look for ? Any thing that could be wrong with the bike.
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