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Old 09-30-2009, 11:58 AM   #41
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There are 5 things that happen at once coming into a turn that just came natural after repetition. I pull the clutch and brake levers and bump down the shifter while letting off the gas and chest braking(coming up from behind the windscreen). No slipper means sequential shifting and sequential shifting depends on how late I waited to brake. Everything but letting off the brake is done right at tip-in.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:31 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by SpeedCheeser View Post
Right. I guess I could have worded my question differently, but I guess what I was trying to ask everyone is what method they use in order to get their throttle set before entering the turn. As in:

1. clutch in/roll off/ brake, release brakes/blip throttle/ release clutch (every time you down shift), reapply brakes

2. clutch in/roll off/ brake, release brakes/blip throttle/ release clutch (only once in the gear you need), reapply brakes

3. roll off/brake, clutch in/down shift, lightly feather out clutch immediately after down shift while still on brakes

etc. Make more sense? I understand you want throttle set before initiating lean, just seeing how some people handle that when they're down shifting for a turn.
Originally Posted by SpeedCheeser View Post
Anyhow, what I seem to be gathering from most, is while on the brakes, down shift and feather the clutch out immediately but gradually after each gear, while blipping the throttle is not necessary.
I don't know what other people do, but I'm going to tell you what Pridmore told me (and what I, consequentially do).

Step 1. Start rolling off the throttle.......this is not all the way, this is some of the way

Step 2. pull the clutch in

Step 3. downshift

Step 4. start feeding the clutch back out

Repeat steps 1-4 as is necessary for however many downshifts you're doing before a turn. A lot of "racers" blip shift. That is, they completely dump the throttle and then give it a quick on-off to get the revs back up to feed out the clutch. If you don't roll off the throttle all the way and pull the clutch you're accomplishing the same thing, but without losing time/rpms. You can also start the process sooner as your rpms aren't changing as drastically.

step 5. brake

step 6. turn in

step 7. trail off brake to the apex

step 8. get to maintenance throttle

step 9. accelerate out

If you don't like this approach, and you want to come off a straight, and dump the'll likely have to blip or you'll be backing it into turns, and probably scare yourself. Granted, a slipper clutch eats up a lot of the back-torque nowadays, but even still.......going into a first or 2nd gear turn from 5th you'll chatter/back it in a bit. I, personally, would never try blipping while on the brakes simply because I'd be worried about losing front end feel and/or grabbing too much brake by trying to do 2 things with the same hand at the same time.

Last words: This is ALL subjective. Some of the fastest riders in the world yank the clutch in, click down 3 gears immediately, and then try to feed the clutch back out even without a blip. See what works for you. Try the "90%" way before emulating any of the "10%ers."
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