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Old 07-31-2009, 02:46 PM   #1
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LEO, Me, and Blue LED fog lamps

OK so heading back from work today from Galleria. I get pulled over by a LEO. He asks for license and then proceeded to tell me that my blue led fog lamps are illegal. And man he was not cool at all. He was like "Only white lights are permitted. Period!"

I understand that they are legal unless they are alternating flashing? I dont see anything in the code saying they are illegal but nothing either saying they are legal...dammit!

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes...htm#547.305.00

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blue led fog lamps? how blue are they, cause if they are actual blue that is definetly illegal. only white and amber are allowed forward.
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I read this as long as they are not alternating or flashing below:


Red, White, Or Blue Lights

In recent weeks we have experienced an increase in telephone calls concerning warning lights on security vehicles. The Private Security Act does not address this issue, however, reference is made to the Texas Transportation Code. Section 547.305, restrictions on use of lights which states:
a motor vehicle lamp or illuminating device, other than a headlamp, stop lamp, auxiliary lamp, turn signal lamp, or emergency vehicle or school bus warning lamp, that projects a beam with an intensity brighter than 300 candlepower shall be directed so that no part of the high-intensity portion of the beam strikes the roadway at a distance of more than 75 feet from the vehicle.
except as expressly authorized by law, a person may not operate or move equipment or a vehicle, other than a police vehicle with a lamp or device that displays a red light visible from directly in front of the center of the equipment or vehicle.
a person may not operate a motor vehicle equipped with a red, white, or blue beacon, flashing, or alternating lights unless the equipment is:
used as specifically authorized by this chapter; or
a running lamp, tail lamp, backup lamp, or turn signal lamp that is used as authorized by law.
a vehicle may be equipped with alternately flashing lighting equipment described by Section 547.701 or 547.702 only if the vehicle is:
a school bus.
an authorized emergency vehicle;
a church bus that has the words “church bus” printed on the front and rear of the bus so as to be clearly discernable to other vehicle operators;
a tow truck while under the direction of a law enforcement officer at the scene of an accident or while hooking up to a disabled vehicle on a roadway; or
a tow truck with a mounted light bar, which has turn signals and stop lamps in addition to those required by Sections 547.322, 547.323, and 547.324, Transportation Code.
a person may not operate highway maintenance or service equipment, including show-removal equipment, that is not equipped with lamps or that does not display lighted lamps is required by the standards and specifications adapted by the Texas Department of Transportation.
in this section, “tow truck” means a motor vehicle or mechanical device that is adapted or used to tow, winch, or move a disabled vehicle.
Further information is available in Section 541.201 of the Transportation Code. In pertinent part, 541.201 states.

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that section does not authorize your blue fog lights
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as a matter of fact, only popo are allowed blue, fire and ems can use all other colors except blue.
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I just called Harris County DPS and they dont even have it on the fine schedule....
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as a matter of fact, only popo are allowed blue, fire and ems can use all other colors except blue.
I believe they extended the blue light use to highway work crews. Not 100%, though.
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I believe they extended the blue light use to highway work crews. Not 100%, though.
your right, blue/amber combo. i know when i was in the FD, i looked up the codes. red, amber white, green all were good up front, no flashing white lights to the rear of a vehicle. I know what your gonna say, lots of vehicles with the strobes in the reverse lights and popo's with the tail/reverse alternating flashers, but technically they are breaking state code.
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a person may not operate a motor vehicle equipped with a red, white, or blue beacon, flashing, or alternating lights unless the equipment is:
i believe this is saying a person may not have a:

red beacon
white beacon
blue beacon
flashing light
or alternating light



guess the blue light could be mistaken for a blue beacon...but even in the maritime/shipping industry...blue lights are reserved for law enforcement vessels only
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i believe this is saying a person may not have a:

red beacon
white beacon
blue beacon
flashing light
or alternating light



guess the blue light could be mistaken for a blue beacon...but even in the maritime/shipping industry...blue lights are reserved for law enforcement vessels only

i know what he is saying, he is trying to skirt the law. no red or blue lights facing forward. there is a book out there with the law in it. i am sure if he would have read the package his lights came in , they would have read, " for off road use only". there is a reason for that.
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what it boils down to is this, just like those of us that push the boundries of inspection tag placement and license plate relocation. be prepared to get hassled.
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Yea I pass a traffic cop every morning on the way to work. And he just waves at me. This guy was just plain rude and he was talking to me like someone just peed in his cornflakes....
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Yea I pass a traffic cop every morning on the way to work. And he just waves at me. This guy was just plain rude and he was talking to me like someone just peed in his cornflakes....
someone prolly did pee in his corn flakes.
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as a matter of fact, only popo are allowed blue, fire and ems can use all other colors except blue.
Not so. All our medic units have blue.

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If you didn't get a ticket, be happy.if you deside to keep running them, be ready for the hassle, your choice. If the same guy sees you, bet big money there will be a citation and probing coming your way.
He did give me a citation: Illegal use of blue emergency lights?

Looked up in the DPS citation listing...none there...so hopefully they will just drop it.

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Are they HID lights? Any pictures?
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Are they HID lights? Any pictures?
Not HID just a small blue light led bar near the bottom of my forks by the wheels
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Blue lights are only allowed on emergency vehicles. You had a blue light. It's not like he was being a and it was just your bulbs had a blue look to them. You had Blue LEDs, that were obviously not accent lighting they were bright forward facing lights. He was just doing his job, it sounds like you need to remove those lights.
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