OHVALE GP-0 160 in the hou... Tahoe!

RC45 · 11-11-2019, 03:52 PM

Ohvale 160 in the house

And IN the Tahoe >

This is way more than just a 'pit bike' or 'mini bike'
It is intended to be used as a proper track & race bike
I just hope to use it to stay some what riding fit LOL

kenup283 · 11-12-2019, 08:16 PM

Sweet looking bike. What are your plans for racing with it, TMGP, ASMGP, other ?

Also curious what you think of the ergos

RC45 · 11-13-2019, 04:22 AM

Ergos are interesting. It makes you feel that to have any sort of control at speed it wants you to really manage your body position which is why I originally decided to get one.

But then along the way I decided a few mods might be in order LOL

I am not sure why but it seems like a good idea

sharkynrk · 11-13-2019, 09:09 AM

Wow!

loosenoose · 11-13-2019, 01:25 PM

thats crazy. i'd love to see one of these little bastards made street legal. that'd be wild

RC45 · 11-13-2019, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loosenoose

thats crazy. i'd love to see one of these little bastards made street legal. that'd be wild

I have an idea for this as well.

Stay tuned

I am putting together a kit.

loosenoose · 11-13-2019, 05:25 PM

i mean why not? it's clearly faster than a grom

BuckNut · 11-14-2019, 09:14 AM

That looks like a Talent Cup bike.

Did they sell you as “new” or previously used.

RC45 · 11-14-2019, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckNut

That looks like a Talent Cup bike.

Did they sell you as “new” or previously used.

Yes, it's a left over Talent Cup bike sold as a used bike.

What attracted my attention was it was cheaper than new with a few simple upgrades - only 4.7 engine hours, GP shift lever, adjustable fork cartridges & adjustable shock and front brake lever guard.

Now it is sprung for a kid so I need to reinstall the stiffer stock shock and fork springs.

BuckNut · 11-14-2019, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC45

Yes, it's a left over Talent Cup bike sold as a used bike.

What attracted my attention was it was cheaper than new with a few simple upgrades - only 4.7 engine hours, GP shift lever, adjustable fork cartridges & adjustable shock and front brake lever guard.

Now it is sprung for a kid so I need to reinstall the stiffer stock shock and fork springs.

Not because of my dislike of the Ohvale business model but I’m going to be straight up with you.

If it only has / had 4.7 hours then that was the bike Hayden used (My daughter). I’m sure you are aware that breaking in these motors are everything. She was the only one in the field that didn’t practice the day before. So I’m 99.99% positive that was her bike.

Because of economics we showed up the day of the event. To our surprise her bike hadn’t even been started. It had severe idling issues and we absolutely abused it. There was no break in. She had to learn the track fast so it sat at WOT all morning practice until it started running better.

Oh, the suspension is set for a 100lb rider.

If I was you and check the valve clearance, metal shavings and perhaps even piston rings.

Good luck, those are fun bikes. But Bucci is better.

BuckNut · 11-14-2019, 03:27 PM

Oh, if you plan replacing the motor, I’m interested in purchasing. I’ll have no issues going through the top end. Moving my kids up from a 110cc.

RC45 · 11-19-2019, 09:52 PM

*dupe*

RC45 · 11-19-2019, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckNut

Not because of my dislike of the Ohvale business model but I’m going to be straight up with you.

If it only has / had 4.7 hours then that was the bike Hayden used (My daughter). I’m sure you are aware that breaking in these motors are everything. She was the only one in the field that didn’t practice the day before. So I’m 99.99% positive that was her bike.

Because of economics we showed up the day of the event. To our surprise her bike hadn’t even been started. It had severe idling issues and we absolutely abused it. There was no break in. She had to learn the track fast so it sat at WOT all morning practice until it started running better.

Oh, the suspension is set for a 100lb rider.

If I was you and check the valve clearance, metal shavings and perhaps even piston rings.

Good luck, those are fun bikes. But Bucci is better.

Apparently Cody used the #44 bike. Any relation?
The oil looked ok when changed on Saturday and the bike pulls hard.

Not having mechanical sympathy for the sponsored bike is a another discussion though

RC45 · 11-19-2019, 10:13 PM

I am being lazy and just reposting my IG posts

Baseline dyno done. In stock broken in form, the little Ohvale puts 15.27 teeny tiny ponies to the rear wheel

The Arrow system is very light despite having a heavier header pipe - the silencer at 1lb lighter than the Yosh, weighs nothing and delivers pretty good peak power for a race oriented bike.

Despite the Yosh pipe not outgunning the Arrows on top numbers on this day (it is a 190cc pipe and maybe that makes a difference) it is down low that the Yosh pipe makes great torque.
Area under the curve baby!!!

Stay tuned for more!!

RC45 · 11-19-2019, 10:15 PM

A closer look at the Ohvale chassis to appreciate the essence of the bike - it is a no nonsense Italian built race bike.

And just so as not to forget the main mission on hand, the Fireblade WSBK in a Shed build - 2 proper purpose built race bikes side by side.

RC45 · 11-19-2019, 10:32 PM

Last minute decision to try catch an hour or so of track time on Sunday at SpeedSportz Racing Park and got some great introductory laps in.

The Ohvale really rewards commitment and harshly punishes sloppy riding, this is a fantastic rider improvement tool!

The Yoshimura RS9 pipe really had the bike pulling as well as 160cc can at any rpm in any gear. Corners I got right were sublime, for the ones in the wrong gear the bike didn’t bog.

2 other Houston Ohvales at the track - a 212 & a 190.

I definitely need to change to the K175 springs - it’s still running the K140 springs from the Talent Cup.

Added 1/2 hour to the engine hour meter, lost a couple fairing screws to vibration, discovered the bars need to be adjusted and my feet may be too big to use the GP Shift pedal comfortably.

Also learned 57*F is cool enough to get your attention on the PMT slicks if you don’t let them warm up - will be sure to run the tire warmers next time

The Alpinestars suit and airbag vest fit perfectly and were comfortable to use. The RST TracTech EVO R gauntlets were very comfortable and even with the heavy armor allowed reasonably quick finger movements.

Oh yeah, if you try squeeze in an hour of late afternoon fall track time, it’s possible to leave in broad day light and head home in the pitch dark. By 6:15pm.

BuckNut · 11-20-2019, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC45

Apparently Cody used the #44 bike. Any relation?
The oil looked ok when changed on Saturday and the bike pulls hard.

Not having mechanical sympathy for the sponsored bike is a another discussion though

Looking through my pics Cody was definitely on the “44”. He practiced Friday before the race on Saturday so I’m surprised his bike wouldn’t of had more hours.

However I doubt he took it easy on that bike and probably broke it in the same as Hayden!

Out of curiosity is the engine stamped 150 or 160? There is some confusion on the actual displacement.

Btw, my offer still stands to buy the engine if you upgrade to the 190.

sharkynrk · 11-21-2019, 10:14 AM

This thread is awesome ... and depressing at the same time lol. These little things are so cool.

RC45 · 11-21-2019, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckNut

Looking through my pics Cody was definitely on the “44”. He practiced Friday before the race on Saturday so I’m surprised his bike wouldn’t of had more hours.

However I doubt he took it easy on that bike and probably broke it in the same as Hayden!

Out of curiosity is the engine stamped 150 or 160? There is some confusion on the actual displacement.

Btw, my offer still stands to buy the engine if you upgrade to the 190.

My understanding is the 160 model Europeans all use Zongshen 150 motors is 155cc setup. 65 x 50 Bore stroke using the 150cc marked barrel for 155.5cc.

I thought Sunday Racing, Bucci, YCF & Ohvale 160s are all actually 155.5 stroker 150 Zongshen motors.

I am probably going to keep the 160 and modify it over time as well - or just keep it as a stock motor to put in the spares pack if I ever sell the entire bike on.

BuckNut · 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC45

My understanding is the 160 model Europeans all use Zongshen 150 motors is 155cc setup. 65 x 50 Bore stroke using the 150cc marked barrel for 155.5cc.

I thought Sunday Racing, Bucci, YCF & Ohvale 160s are all actually 155.5 stroker 150 Zongshen motors.

I am probably going to keep the 160 and modify it over time as well - or just keep it as a stock motor to put in the spares pack if I ever sell the entire bike on.

Don’t advertise your knowledge!

The “110’s” would really get people in a furry if they knew true displacement.

Good on you.

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RC45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 434 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): Some old 2 stroke track bikes	Ergos are interesting. It makes you feel that to have any sort of control at speed it wants you to really manage your body position which is why I originally decided to get one. But then along the way I decided a few mods might be in order LOL I am not sure why but it seems like a good idea
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BuckNut Bye, Felicia! Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 4,532 Bike(s): A Few	That looks like a Talent Cup bike. Did they sell you as “new” or previously used.
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loosenoose veteran novice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: montgomery Feedback Rating: (2) Posts: 4,643 Experience: 10+ years Bike(s): a lot of sv's and a little 'bout love	thats crazy. i'd love to see one of these little bastards made street legal. that'd be wild

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loosenoose veteran novice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: montgomery Feedback Rating: (2) Posts: 4,643 Experience: 10+ years Bike(s): a lot of sv's and a little 'bout love	i mean why not? it's clearly faster than a grom

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BuckNut Bye, Felicia! Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 4,532 Bike(s): A Few	Oh, if you plan replacing the motor, I’m interested in purchasing. I’ll have no issues going through the top end. Moving my kids up from a 110cc.
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11-19-2019, 10:13 PM	#14
RC45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 434 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): Some old 2 stroke track bikes	I am being lazy and just reposting my IG posts Baseline dyno done. In stock broken in form, the little Ohvale puts 15.27 teeny tiny ponies to the rear wheel The Arrow system is very light despite having a heavier header pipe - the silencer at 1lb lighter than the Yosh, weighs nothing and delivers pretty good peak power for a race oriented bike. Despite the Yosh pipe not outgunning the Arrows on top numbers on this day (it is a 190cc pipe and maybe that makes a difference) it is down low that the Yosh pipe makes great torque. Area under the curve baby!!! Stay tuned for more!! YouTube (Short URL) YouTube (Short URL)
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11-19-2019, 10:15 PM	#15
RC45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 434 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): Some old 2 stroke track bikes	A closer look at the Ohvale chassis to appreciate the essence of the bike - it is a no nonsense Italian built race bike. And just so as not to forget the main mission on hand, the Fireblade WSBK in a Shed build - 2 proper purpose built race bikes side by side.
	__________________ .

11-19-2019, 10:32 PM	#16
RC45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 434 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): Some old 2 stroke track bikes	Last minute decision to try catch an hour or so of track time on Sunday at SpeedSportz Racing Park and got some great introductory laps in. The Ohvale really rewards commitment and harshly punishes sloppy riding, this is a fantastic rider improvement tool! The Yoshimura RS9 pipe really had the bike pulling as well as 160cc can at any rpm in any gear. Corners I got right were sublime, for the ones in the wrong gear the bike didn’t bog. 2 other Houston Ohvales at the track - a 212 & a 190. I definitely need to change to the K175 springs - it’s still running the K140 springs from the Talent Cup. Added 1/2 hour to the engine hour meter, lost a couple fairing screws to vibration, discovered the bars need to be adjusted and my feet may be too big to use the GP Shift pedal comfortably. Also learned 57*F is cool enough to get your attention on the PMT slicks if you don’t let them warm up - will be sure to run the tire warmers next time The Alpinestars suit and airbag vest fit perfectly and were comfortable to use. The RST TracTech EVO R gauntlets were very comfortable and even with the heavy armor allowed reasonably quick finger movements. Oh yeah, if you try squeeze in an hour of late afternoon fall track time, it’s possible to leave in broad day light and head home in the pitch dark. By 6:15pm.
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11-21-2019, 10:14 AM	#18
sharkynrk Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Austin, TX Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 58 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): 07 ZX6R 09 250R Track 93 F2.5 Track 2015 Grom 08 Versys 650	This thread is awesome ... and depressing at the same time lol. These little things are so cool.