What time is a good lap time at TWS (Texas World Speedway)

eltejano · 06-25-2009, 12:04 PM

I am fairly new here and kinda new to track days and was wondering what times are considered good.

I have worked on my lines on the last 2 track days and on my best lap I did a 1:59 or so , thats without having to get stuck behind anyone staring at the front of everyone. With all the traffic on level 2 I am running 2:10. Just dont wanna do too many aggressive passes while I am not too comfortable passing riders when that I dont know how they are going to react in the turns.

At first it was "cool" passing people but I dont know about that now, with people doing weird things sometimes when you least expect it.

AJFLo · 06-25-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eltejano

I am fairly new here and kinda new to track days and was wondering what times are considered good.

I have worked on my lines on the last 2 track days and on my best lap I did a 1:59 or so , thats without having to get stuck behind anyone staring at the front of everyone. With all the traffic on level 2 I am running 2:10. Just dont wanna do too many aggressive passes while I am not too comfortable passing riders when that I dont know how they are going to react in the turns.

At first it was "cool" passing people but I dont know about that now, with people doing weird things sometimes when you least expect it.

Unpredictable lines scare me!

dbuck · 06-25-2009, 12:09 PM

Sub 2 minutes is moving!

DLSGAP · 06-25-2009, 12:12 PM

move to level 4 if you're trying to get lap times... if you aren't ready for level 4,, then you shouldnt be worried about lap times.

HoustonGixxer · 06-25-2009, 12:16 PM

Anything below 2 minutes is fairly good

dhdrider · 06-25-2009, 12:19 PM

Sub 2:00 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) is fine for Level 4 or Group A w/ LSTD. I would even say that sub 2:05 is OK. If you can do a smooth, cool, predictable sub 2:05 all day long w/o even thinking about it, then you're good to go IMO.

If I were a long-time faster level 4 rider, I would much rather have a guy running a predictable line 2:05, than someone dropping below 2:00, having 1 -pucker moment after another.

It's not just lap times, it's the manner in which they are obtained IMO.

cdill35 · 12:22 PM

well...when talking about lap times the "or so" in your 1:59 or so comment can go ahead and be left out. You are either running that or you are not. And it needs to be based on YOUR timer and not the timer of some dude who said he was running that and you were following him.

What is a good lap time? I dont think that question can be answered because most, who care about lap times, have thier own personal goals and ideas of what a good lap time is.

I'd be estatic over a sub 1:50 lap time at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...while experts that run 1:46ish, regularly, would not.

So the best I can offer to you, is that for track days, sub 2 minutes is a nice clip at TWS (Texas World Speedway), for some.

For races, you wont get very far running anything over 1:52ish, in novice.(sprints)

eltejano · 06-25-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cdill35

well...when talking about lap times the "or so" in your 1:59 or so comment can go ahead and be left out. You are either running that or you are not. And it needs to be based on YOUR timer and not the timer of some dude who said he was running that and you were following him.

What is a good lap time? I dont think that question can be answered because most, who care about lap times, have thier own personal goals and ideas of what a good lap time is.

I'd be estatic over a sub 1:50 lap time at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...while experts that run 1:46ish, regularly, would not.

So the best I can offer to you, is that for track days, sub 2 minutes is a nice clip at TWS (Texas World Speedway), for some.

For races, you wont get very far running anything over 1:52ish, in novice.(sprints)

I actually videoed the sessions and had a friend with a timer clocking me so I kinda used both video time and timer. So thats why I say "ish"cause its hard to be exactly acurate timing like this.

I want to establish a base line and goals to shoot for every track day. The last 2 track days I was just focusing on body position and then on lines. Now that I am starting to hit the lines better and getting better body position, I am looking at times for the 1st time, thats all.

eltejano · 06-25-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dhdrider

It's not just lap times, it's the manner in which they are obtained IMO.

I agree, thats why I have done 5 track days so far this year, so I could work strictly on body position and lines. Like I was told by an instructor last year, the more I work on lines and body position, faster speed will come naturally. Just work on them lines and try and be smooth and thats what I have been trying to do. I want to learn lines to when someone passes me or I pass someone, I will hold a line and not make someone crash. I would feel terrible if someone crashed cause I got in over my head.

cdill35 · 06-25-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eltejano

I actually videoed the sessions and had a friend with a timer clocking me so I kinda used both video time and timer. So thats why I say "ish"cause its hard to be exactly acurate timing like this.

I want to establish a base line and goals to shoot for every track day. The last 2 track days I was just focusing on body position and then on lines. Now that I am starting to hit the lines better and getting better body position, I am looking at times for the 1st time, thats all.

I started running a timer as soon as I got in to level 2. I say go for it. Some will disagree.

I get when the beacon doesnt work and I dont get my times. Frankly, that is mostly what I care about...lap times.

1fastchevy · 01:03 PM

Timer hasnt worked last 3 time Ive been to TWS (Texas World Speedway) :(

The only way I know Im getting faster is Now I need rear sets becuse Im dragging them :(

BTW I think you should run L4 if your under 2min

switch · 06-25-2009, 01:03 PM

i saw you out there on saturday leo, you were booking it pretty good

eltejano · 06-25-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by switch

i saw you out there on saturday leo, you were booking it pretty good

I told you at the track and I am telling you now, I AM NOT GAY!! Dude I am flattered but I already told you I am not interested.

BigComfy · 06-25-2009, 01:15 PM

1:41's and under.

eltejano · 06-25-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by switch

i saw you out there on saturday leo, you were booking it pretty good

Seriously, though, thanks man. You gonna be out there next track day?

cashtown · 06-25-2009, 04:41 PM

52 seconds is not too shabby.

jrock · 06-25-2009, 08:24 PM

Dang Dude That is moving pretty good. Sorry I thought you were my ex brother in law who dropped my ninja while i was over in Iraq back in 06 . I was about to unload on you(him) sorry for any confusion I might have causedHe is eltejano719 ...... You can see where I might have been thrown off a bit...HahahaWelcome to Motohouston

eltejano · 06-25-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jrock

Dang Dude That is moving pretty good. Sorry I thought you were my ex brother in law who dropped my ninja while i was over in Iraq back in 06 . I was about to unload on you(him) sorry for any confusion I might have causedHe is eltejano719 ...... You can see where I might have been thrown off a bit...HahahaWelcome to Motohouston

No prob, man. We have this guy at work named Jay that calls himself J-Rock. We all call him Gay . When I 1st saw your name I thought it might be him cause he rides a Yamaha til I read your profile.

civicious · 06-27-2009, 07:37 PM

Sub 2:00 is pretty decent...

I did a 2:11 at the CMRA race a few months back...

...in the rain

eltejano · 06-27-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by civicious

Sub 2:00 is pretty decent...

I did a 2:11 at the CMRA race a few months back...

...in the rain

, I did twice as fast in a blizzard.

06-25-2009, 12:04 PM	#1
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dhdrider Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austin, TX Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 1,718 Bike(s): 08 KTM 300 XC-W	Sub 2:00 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) is fine for Level 4 or Group A w/ LSTD. I would even say that sub 2:05 is OK. If you can do a smooth, cool, predictable sub 2:05 all day long w/o even thinking about it, then you're good to go IMO. If I were a long-time faster level 4 rider, I would much rather have a guy running a predictable line 2:05, than someone dropping below 2:00, having 1 -pucker moment after another. It's not just lap times, it's the manner in which they are obtained IMO.
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cdill35 717 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Houston Feedback Rating: (5) Posts: 9,654 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): 2014 Phoenix 921 Pro XP w/ Merc 250 ProXS 11 Yam Zuma 125 Specialized Stumpy	well...when talking about lap times the "or so" in your 1:59 or so comment can go ahead and be left out. You are either running that or you are not. And it needs to be based on YOUR timer and not the timer of some dude who said he was running that and you were following him. What is a good lap time? I dont think that question can be answered because most, who care about lap times, have thier own personal goals and ideas of what a good lap time is. I'd be estatic over a sub 1:50 lap time at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...while experts that run 1:46ish, regularly, would not. So the best I can offer to you, is that for track days, sub 2 minutes is a nice clip at TWS (Texas World Speedway), for some. For races, you wont get very far running anything over 1:52ish, in novice.(sprints)
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dbuck Stayin' Young Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NW Houston BW8/290 Feedback Rating: (5) Posts: 20,008 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): 02 Honda Superhawk	Sub 2 minutes is moving!

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1fastchevy Bout Time Join Date: May 2008 Location: North Feedback Rating: (1) Posts: 1,059 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): 750	Timer hasnt worked last 3 time Ive been to TWS (Texas World Speedway) :( The only way I know Im getting faster is Now I need rear sets becuse Im dragging them :( BTW I think you should run L4 if your under 2min
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