OIL LIFE

BLAKE81 · 12-12-2011, 02:57 PM

SO I WAS WONDERING HOW OFTEN TO CHANGE THE OIL IN MY BIKE
I KNOW EVERY 3K MILES
BUT
WHAT IF I RIDE 3K MILES EVERY SIX MONTHS
DOES OIL GO BAD JUST SITTING THERE

IF NOT 3K MILES THEN A TIME LIMIT?

GOT MY NEW BIKE BACK IN JUNE DID THE 600 MILE OIL CHANGE IN JULY
I NOW ONLY HAVE 1200 MILES ON THE BIKE
SHOULD I CHANGE IT OR WAIT TILL I RACK UP 3K MILES

JUST WONDERING
THANKS
B

675Raisinator · 12-12-2011, 03:19 PM

what about changing oil on a track bike? id imagine that is more frequent?

bluewave18 · 12-12-2011, 03:24 PM

read the book

yumbeef · 12-12-2011, 03:33 PM

dunno if old oil sludges up when sitting and exposed to temperature and humidity swings. if it just sits, i'd change it.

jptshadow · 12-12-2011, 09:56 PM

oil sitting in the engine is not gonna do anything. The humidity will be gone next time you fire it up.
I have the same scenario since I have a couple of vehicles to rotate throughout the week, I just change them all together every 6 months with Rotella T6~~!! lol
(here we go again~ lol)

mkgsxr · 12-12-2011, 10:26 PM

i didnt know you had to change oil

jptshadow · 12-12-2011, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkgsxr

i didnt know you had to change oil

yea, we did. It's ok.
I just found out yesterday

Joshua42007 · 12-13-2011, 10:47 AM

THERE IS NO NEED TO YELL THIS EARLY IN THE MORNING

with that aside, I would go by the book. Sometimes I change earlier than that, because I feel like it is necessary.

ileono918 · 12-13-2011, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 675Raisinator

what about changing oil on a track bike? id imagine that is more frequent?

I change the oil every other TD or race weekend; and change the filter every other oil change.

zerobounds · 12-13-2011, 10:59 AM

camaroz2866 · 01-10-2012, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jptshadow

oil sitting in the engine is not gonna do anything. The humidity will be gone next time you fire it up.
I have the same scenario since I have a couple of vehicles to rotate throughout the week, I just change them all together every 6 months with Rotella T6~~!! lol
(here we go again~ lol)

Wrong!

I go by mileage and time. On my bikes I do depending on how I ride and mileage to time. On My cars I do 3months/2800-3000 miles.

If a vehicle is just sitting and not being driven/rode at all then about 3 months is the longest I would go to not change the oil. Especially in Houston's humidity!

jptshadow · 01-10-2012, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz2866

Wrong!

I go by mileage and time. On my bikes I do depending on how I ride and mileage to time. On My cars I do 3months/2800-3000 miles.

If a vehicle is just sitting and not being driven/rode at all then about 3 months is the longest I would go to not change the oil. Especially in Houston's humidity!

u want to buy the marketing hype, thaz fine.

This is what appears to be funny. Before, they all recommended 3k mi / 3 mon interval. But nowadays, since there are eco-issue, they all increase the interval to 5k/5mon. Funny thing is, the oil is the same as what we have been using all these years. They claimed the engine design is different....I doubt it.

bluewave18 · 01-10-2012, 08:27 AM

Engine tolerances have tightened up. Many engines have a recommendation of 7500. These days. Most new vehicles are now coming with 5w20 rather than the old 10w30. I would say something has changed.

camaroz2866 · 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jptshadow

u want to buy the marketing hype, thaz fine.

This is what appears to be funny. Before, they all recommended 3k mi / 3 mon interval. But nowadays, since there are eco-issue, they all increase the interval to 5k/5mon. Funny thing is, the oil is the same as what we have been using all these years. They claimed the engine design is different....I doubt it.

I do this for a living.... I see oil life everyday when I change oil sometimes that doesn't even have 3,000 miles on it from a commuter and it's black as .... And age turns oil Sluggy when it just sits

Marketing hype or whatever... Fact is fact. And oil is cheap, motors are expensive.

bluewave18 · 01-10-2012, 08:30 AM

Black as ? Take the oil from a Chevy at 3k and the oil from a Honda at 3k for instance. Think they both need to be changed at 3k?

camaroz2866 · 01-10-2012, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluewave18

Black as ? Take the oil from a Chevy at 3k and the oil from a Honda at 3k for instance. Think they both need to be changed at 3k?

Depends on how it's being driven. I change my oil in my silverado anywhere between 2500-3,000 miles,

yumbeef · 01-10-2012, 08:41 AM

5k-7.5k mile oil change intervals usually have an asterisk next to it saying something like "under ideal conditions. adverse conditions such as high temp, dusty environment, stop and go traffic and/or frequent stops may require shorter oil change intervals."

RACER X · 08:49 AM

my honda odyssey has an oil change reminder, it comes at 7000mi, whether i take long trips or city driving

and yeah it uses 5w-20, i used Mobil1

bikes, i'll do around 3000mi

mainly because the engines are run up higher RPM wise, and the becuase of the wet clutch particles

camaroz2866 · 01-10-2012, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RACER X

my honda odyssey has an oil change reminder, it comes at 7000mi, whether i take long trips or city driving

and yeah it uses 5w-20, i used Mobil1

bikes, i'll do around 3000mi

mainly because the engines are run up higher RPM wise, and the becuase of the wet clutch particles

Yeah and BMW cars say go 15k.... Oils cheap motors are expensive, it's people that don't care for the life of the vehicle that argue oil life.

RACER X · 01-10-2012, 09:12 AM

i care about the engine life, i also follow Honda's recommendation w/ a bazillion engineers vs a mechanic on the interwebz

this is not some honda service writer telling me to change it ever 7k, this is a built in function of the van.

but thats why i use m1, JIC the 7k is bit long for oil change. most people use reg. oil vs syn oil for 7k.........

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yumbeef beef eater Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: behind 200rds of 30.06 Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 1,075 Experience: 1 year Bike(s): 08 ninja 250r 06 cbr600rr	dunno if old oil sludges up when sitting and exposed to temperature and humidity swings. if it just sits, i'd change it.

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Joshua42007 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Feedback Rating: (2) Posts: 3,625 Experience: 1-3 months Bike(s): 06' GSX-R 1000	THERE IS NO NEED TO YELL THIS EARLY IN THE MORNING with that aside, I would go by the book. Sometimes I change earlier than that, because I feel like it is necessary.

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bluewave18 Safety Third Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: S.E. Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 34,826 Experience: 10+ years Bike(s): 08 Busa 03 XR 50	Engine tolerances have tightened up. Many engines have a recommendation of 7500. These days. Most new vehicles are now coming with 5w20 rather than the old 10w30. I would say something has changed.

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bluewave18 Safety Third Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: S.E. Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 34,826 Experience: 10+ years Bike(s): 08 Busa 03 XR 50	Black as ? Take the oil from a Chevy at 3k and the oil from a Honda at 3k for instance. Think they both need to be changed at 3k?

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yumbeef beef eater Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: behind 200rds of 30.06 Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 1,075 Experience: 1 year Bike(s): 08 ninja 250r 06 cbr600rr	5k-7.5k mile oil change intervals usually have an asterisk next to it saying something like "under ideal conditions. adverse conditions such as high temp, dusty environment, stop and go traffic and/or frequent stops may require shorter oil change intervals."

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