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Old 09-30-2018, 11:45 PM   #1
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Here's my take on motorcycles and riders, even the douche ones, like me ha. Certain people generally hate them/us simply bc they want to. They think and act like we're deliberately out to fnck their day and ride home. They'll swerve at us, cut us off, stop short, turn long, wait, flip us off n curse us, and why? Bc they despise us for simply riding, albeit we often ride like the rules don't apply to us. And sure they hate us for that very reason. But bottom line, our riding doesn't put them out in any way. We're more often than not already gone and out of the way before they can even get upset that we were there. And that's just it, motorcycles are gone before they can cause anyone to screw up their ride position. If automobiles would simply carry on their intended path, generally the motorcycle would cause no problem whatsoever, and that's the bottom line. If cars see us and make a course correction bc of what they "think" we'll do is usually what causes the accident, aside from the ones they simply don't see us and pull out in front. But other than that, if they carry on, the motorcyclist will already have made course adjustment and compensated for what the car is doing. But people, please do not get offended that we're mearly taking advantage of the motorcycles small maneuverable size and going thru traffic much more easily than the cars themselves. We're not trying to screw anyone over or insult their drive, we're just moving forward as best we can. And me personally, I feel so much safer when I'm on my bike passing people, even in crowded lanes, reason being is that if I'm passing everyone and going faster than everyone, I know where they are and they're not going to rear-end me or run me over, unless they intend to for me passing them as I did haha. Lane splitting is actually quite safe as .Long as no one sees and approaching motorcycle and purposely cut it off. I'm constantly scanning my direction and focusing on possible vehicle deviations from its projected path. The looming issues with cars and motorcyclists is that drivers don't like how many motorcyclists ride and sometimes try to reak havoc for them. Many drivers take it personal that motorcyclists ride past them without regard. But it's n it personal, it's just us moving forward on a good line. AND, an aggressive motorcyclists (to a modest extent) is less likely to be c sight in an accident with another vehicle bc we're actively thinking about our course, whereas a motorcyclist cruising easily with traffic is more likely to become in a state of hypno-ride and get caught offguard by another vehicle.
All of that could be reworded to become more clear, but I think I made the point I intended to make. It's not personal, just riding.

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Old 10-01-2018, 06:17 AM   #2
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Here's my take on motorcycles and riders, even the douche ones, like me ha. Certain people generally hate them/us simply bc they want to. They think and act like we're deliberately out to fnck their day and ride home. They'll swerve at us, cut us off, stop short, turn long, wait, flip us off n curse us, and why? Bc they despise us for simply riding, albeit we often ride like the rules don't apply to us. And sure they hate us for that very reason. But bottom line, our riding doesn't put them out in any way. We're more often than not already gone and out of the way before they can even get upset that we were there. And that's just it, motorcycles are gone before they can cause anyone to screw up their ride position. If automobiles would simply carry on their intended path, generally the motorcycle would cause no problem whatsoever, and that's the bottom line. If cars see us and make a course correction bc of what they "think" we'll do is usually what causes the accident, aside from the ones they simply don't see us and pull out in front. But other than that, if they carry on, the motorcyclist will already have made course adjustment and compensated for what the car is doing. But people, please do not get offended that we're mearly taking advantage of the motorcycles small maneuverable size and going thru traffic much more easily than the cars themselves. We're not trying to screw anyone over or insult their drive, we're just moving forward as best we can. And me personally, I feel so much safer when I'm on my bike passing people, even in crowded lanes, reason being is that if I'm passing everyone and going faster than everyone, I know where they are and they're not going to rear-end me or run me over, unless they intend to for me passing them as I did haha. Lane splitting is actually quite safe as .Long as no one sees and approaching motorcycle and purposely cut it off. I'm constantly scanning my direction and focusing on possible vehicle deviations from its projected path. The looming issues with cars and motorcyclists is that drivers don't like how many motorcyclists ride and sometimes try to reak havoc for them. Many drivers take it personal that motorcyclists ride past them without regard. But it's n it personal, it's just us moving forward on a good line. AND, an aggressive motorcyclists (to a modest extent) is less likely to be c sight in an accident with another vehicle bc we're actively thinking about our course, whereas a motorcyclist cruising easily with traffic is more likely to become in a state of hypno-ride and get caught offguard by another vehicle.
All of that could be reworded to become more clear, but I think I made the point I intended to make. It's not personal, just riding.
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didnt read. i nearly get hit every morning when i ride to work. it's just one of the super awesome things that makes this fun. em. i'm certain whatever is going on on their phone is more important than any of our lives. i'm not a fan of the loud pipe that came with this bike, but really, it is loud enough that i shouldnt have a person not hear me and almost run my over. esp if i have been riding in their vicinity for several miles.
anyways, lol get over it. these things happen.
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Lane splitting is actually quite safe as .Long as no one sees and approaching motorcycle and purposely cut it off.
I've got to disagree with you on that one.

Even when I'm in my car, I've had several people veer over into my lane because they A) weren't paying attention or B) just didn't see me...I can only imagine it's 10x worse while riding a motorcycle.


At the end of the day, there are rules put in place that everyone is supposed to abide by...and if people avoided riding/driving like a**holes, the world would be a much better place.
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:37 PM   #7
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Ya I wouldn't read it all either. But didn't make anyone mad, nor get mad myself. Just thoughts it a conversation I overheard.
And with vehicles 'veering' over, that's slow and viewable, as opposed to someone intentionally cutting off. Guess you'd have to understand my view on it.
And anyone else that wants to tell me something stupid can take that comment and stick it up there arss. Idgaf
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Oh actually a Tahoe saw me last second and tried to swerve at me bc I was riding the line in slow backed up traffic and moving ahead of the line.
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To go right push on the right bar, to go left push the on left bar. This called counter steering and you learned how to do it when you learned how to ride a bicycle. Use your front brake mainly and use the rear brake lightly. Look where want to go, not where you are going. Always look far ahead and when in traffic behind a car, ride to one side of then lane or the other so you look around the car and see whats going on up ahead. Take your advice from riders who have been riding a long time, the older/wiser the better.

You will crash eventually so get geared up. And remember this, there two kinds of motorcycle riders. Those who have crashed and those that are going to.

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...there two kinds of motorcycle riders. Those who have crashed and those that are going to.
I thought we covered this in Cali R's thread (https://www.motohouston.com/forums/s...d.php?t=372704), posts 8 and 10.
1. It's not a true statement.
2. Thinking this way sets you up for failure.


Also, Carver is not a new rider. Check his profile info under his name - 2 years and 1 track day. But I'm sure he appreciates the advice.
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To go right push on the right bar, to go left push the on left bar. This called counter steering .....
Try this when your pushing it up an incline.
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Ya I wouldn't read it all either. But didn't make anyone mad, nor get mad myself. Just thoughts it a conversation I overheard.
And with vehicles 'veering' over, that's slow and viewable, as opposed to someone intentionally cutting off. Guess you'd have to understand my view on it.
And anyone else that wants to tell me something stupid can take that comment and stick it up there arss. Idgaf
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Me, personally, I don't get pissy n flippin people off just bc someone accidently cut me off or happened to veer into my lane. I understand that happens and sometimes traffic doesn't go the way people thought it would. So unless someone intentionally my course up, I wave it off and smile so they know I'm not ... Sometimes even just that can have an influence on someone's day. I'd rather be of the good sort.
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I thought we covered this in Cali R's thread (https://www.motohouston.com/forums/s...d.php?t=372704), posts 8 and 10.
1. It's not a true statement.
2. Thinking this way sets you up for failure.


Also, Carver is not a new rider. Check his profile info under his name - 2 years and 1 track day. But I'm sure he appreciates the advice.
As long a good advice can reach the recipient its no harm on saying it over and over.
If you personally feel like this is not true or it doesn't go well with your way of thinking and riding just move one to the comment or thread... as you stated already your voiced and opinion regarding my advice for beginner riders
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Gentlemen. If you ever get a chance to ride a motorcycle in another country, especially a developing country. Dont hesitate, just do it. You will be shocked how accomodating car drivers are to motorcycles in countries where traffic sucks and motorcycle travel makes sense.

I love driving in Mexico. When i come to stop lights cars will veer left and right to let me through to the front of the line. They actually have the ability to comprehend that motocycles at front will not delay their travel because the bike will be gone before their car even starts moving, and bikes at the front means more space in the lane behind them for other cars.
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