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Old 07-19-2018, 05:40 AM   #21
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Not a disease. A trait that helps survival in a primitive world. Focusing in on small parts of your surroundings is a good way to miss the things that kill you. Now we need to be able to sit still, do boring/repetitive and routine things. Some people struggle with that much more than others. With kids the go to seems to be drugs rather than teaching them to learn how they work and learn.

I take low dose adderall as needed. I like being all over the place but parts of my life require focus i struggle to have. At the time I was diagnosed i had over 20 incomplete projects going back over several years. I was struggling with reading for promotional testing and graduate school (when i am not bored with reading i can easily read 40 or more pages an hour). Not being able to read a full page at once due to bring distracted by anything that moves or makes a sound is when you need to learn the material.

Prior to adderall I was rarely on time to anything, i often forgot things i needed to do, was distracted enough doing things that damage or injury occurred (broke my left leg that way), rarely completed anything, was impulsive at all the wrong times, everything was a disorganized mess around me, when i did sit down i fidgeted constantly and finally i off people often not being able to shut up and not talk over them. But...when I was into something i could do it for hours with great focus, hyperfocus, like cleaning and re-organizing the garage from 9pm to 11pm in a Wednesday night when my wife needed to get up early for work.

So now I take low dose adderall (they make a lot off diff doses and after years I'm on the third smallest once a day). If I am studying or have a to do list i take it in the morning and get done. If I didn't need it I wouldn't take it, even a low dose takes away a part of who I am. But I the meantime my ability to learn a easily as i used to is back, my home is less chaotic, my wife is happier and I wish I lived in a world where i didn't have to use a drug to be effective in the world we live in.

If ADD/ADHD are not real then neither is depression, OCD, PTSD and a host of other disorders. The reason these are problems are because people are wired differently and when these disorders are so intrusive or disruptive they interfere with life so much they can be a big problem. That's when adjusting behavior and medications come in. I self managed ADD for years, but I also dealt with depression at times with constantly feeling like a failure for being unable to finish things. With the overload of information in the world this was getting worse. I can't imagine that everyone can deal with everything the same way...
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Not a disease. A trait that helps survival in a primitive world. Focusing in on small parts of your surroundings is a good way to miss the things that kill you. Now we need to be able to sit still, do boring/repetitive and routine things. Some people struggle with that much more than others. With kids the go to seems to be drugs rather than teaching them to learn how they work and learn.

I take low dose adderall as needed. I like being all over the place but parts of my life require focus i struggle to have. At the time I was diagnosed i had over 20 incomplete projects going back over several years. I was struggling with reading for promotional testing and graduate school (when i am not bored with reading i can easily read 40 or more pages an hour). Not being able to read a full page at once due to bring distracted by anything that moves or makes a sound is when you need to learn the material.

Prior to adderall I was rarely on time to anything, i often forgot things i needed to do, was distracted enough doing things that damage or injury occurred (broke my left leg that way), rarely completed anything, was impulsive at all the wrong times, everything was a disorganized mess around me, when i did sit down i fidgeted constantly and finally i off people often not being able to shut up and not talk over them. But...when I was into something i could do it for hours with great focus, hyperfocus, like cleaning and re-organizing the garage from 9pm to 11pm in a Wednesday night when my wife needed to get up early for work.

So now I take low dose adderall (they make a lot off diff doses and after years I'm on the third smallest once a day). If I am studying or have a to do list i take it in the morning and get done. If I didn't need it I wouldn't take it, even a low dose takes away a part of who I am. But I the meantime my ability to learn a easily as i used to is back, my home is less chaotic, my wife is happier and I wish I lived in a world where i didn't have to use a drug to be effective in the world we live in.

If ADD/ADHD are not real then neither is depression, OCD, PTSD and a host of other disorders. The reason these are problems are because people are wired differently and when these disorders are so intrusive or disruptive they interfere with life so much they can be a big problem. That's when adjusting behavior and medications come in. I self managed ADD for years, but I also dealt with depression at times with constantly feeling like a failure for being unable to finish things. With the overload of information in the world this was getting worse. I can't imagine that everyone can deal with everything the same way...
Glad you found something that helps. I agree with you on sitting down and teaching kids how they work etc. That's why I refuse medication. What we are doing works for now and if we need to pursue other options in the future then we will. But he is a straight A student and he's doing good managing it
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Sounds like he is learning around his condition. He may choose to start meds later but put it off as long as possible. I think the only thing that really helped me was Montessori education through 5th grade.
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