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Old 05-12-2008, 01:24 PM   #61
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Lol I guess wont be doing anything fun for a while

was at the gym. did a lift with weight I am comfy with and just heard a pop. then I saw the knot on my back and I knew what it was (torn muscle). Had to call my girl to come get me from the gym and drive my truck home. cant even turn the steering wheel with my left hand. found out about the rotator cuff today.

so how many others here are all banged up?
Do you do warm-up reps or stretching?

I hurt my shoulder about 2 years ago. Since then i try to warm my joints up real good before lifting. I'm lifting more than i did when i got hurt now.

Just give your self a lot of time to heal up properly and get back into it slowly.
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Do you do warm-up reps or stretching?

I hurt my shoulder about 2 years ago. Since then i try to warm my joints up real good before lifting. I'm lifting more than i did when i got hurt now.

Just give your self a lot of time to heal up properly and get back into it slowly.
It was doing deadlifts. it was during the lift phase (right when you contract your traps at the end of the lift) that i heard it pop, rip tear whatever.

I always warm up real good. I think it was just a freak accident.
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there padlike wedges the fit inbetween your calfs and thighs and are attached to the shin guards, alot of mlb catchers use them you just have to pay attention to the back of their knees

so you put all the weight that was supposed to concentrate on your knees and ankles on those things? almost like sitting? thats badass
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It was doing deadlifts. it was during the lift phase (right when you contract your traps at the end of the lift) that i heard it pop, rip tear whatever.

I always warm up real good. I think it was just a freak accident.
wow, how much were you lifting? I've gotten up to 265 and haven't really felt much strain on my shoulders.

I believe the problem i had with my shoulder before was because the secondary muscles were weak. I hated to doing over head press and military press. Since then i do them, but can't say i have strong shoulders, but other stuff like bench feels better.
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wow, how much were you lifting? I've gotten up to 265 and haven't really felt much strain on my shoulders.

I believe the problem i had with my shoulder before was because the secondary muscles were weak. I hated to doing over head press and military press. Since then i do them, but can't say i have strong shoulders, but other stuff like bench feels better.
635 (6 plus a 25 on each side) did it on my third rep. its a weight i have used a lot before .so just had to be a freak accident. or maybe I was dehydrated a bit. that causes a lot of muscle tears.

for secondary muscle strength and explosion for shoulders and chest. clings help a lot. they helped my bench a lot. plus they are good for forearms which recruits another muscle when you lift so less strain on the joints of shoulders. also the muscle directly opposite of what is lifting should be strong to stabilize. for bench and any press including military; strong rear delts helps when doing low rep sets.
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so you put all the weight that was supposed to concentrate on your knees and ankles on those things? almost like sitting? thats badass
had them the second we started seeing major leaguers use them (around 1995ish). If catchers dont use them cause theyre trying to look like tough guys then they are idiots :/:
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how bad was the damage? any loss of movement?
Yeah...the first time (my left one) was out of socket for over 4 hours and hurt like heck. Rotor cuff tear. I have almost full range of motion however quick movements like throwing a fastball or spiking a vollyball will cause it to pop out. Over head throwing motion is where I lost range of motion, I can still do it but I am very aware of it now and have learned to work around it.

My thought was against surgery because even with less invasive procedures you will still have scar tissue later on. Mine cause me no pain at all now and it has been over 10 years.
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6 plates on each side is a site to see. You are definitely doing enough weight to make your body scream every where. I'd shyt myself if i even tried to do half of that. You must be a beast

that is some good advice below. I haven't done clings since High school.
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6 plates on each side is a site to see. You are definitely doing enough weight to make your body scream every where. I'd shyt myself if i even tried to do half of that. You must be a beast

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thoes have been out for awhile i used them when i used to catch in high school
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clings are awesome, as well as all other "compound" lifts". i try to build my entire lifting routine around as many compound lifts as i can. deads, squats (many variations), rows, presses, pullups, dips, cleans, etc... its hard as for me to do right now too, cuase im cutting and eating a deficit diet. low energy + tired = easy to hurt myself.
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clings are awesome, as well as all other "compound" lifts". i try to build my entire lifting routine around as many compound lifts as i can. deads, squats (many variations), rows, presses, pullups, dips, cleans, etc... its hard as for me to do right now too, cuase im cutting and eating a deficit diet. low energy + tired = easy to hurt myself.
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thx bro, i really start to notice the strain on my body when im cutting. i cant wait till the end of summer and i can start bulking up again.
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Thanks. I am going to Dr sanders. and then Dr otto (sports medicine) for the rehab and diet. then I am going to k Klein for the diet part. aint gona let this keep me down.
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well you are really not really supposed to do clings, squats, or other compounds during this phase. you are not trying to work out for hypertrophy in the phase you are in. you are only trying to workout to prevent athrophy. I hate cut phases. fortunately for me. I stay lean all year round naturally.
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6 plates on each side is a site to see. You are definitely doing enough weight to make your body scream every where. I'd shyt myself if i even tried to do half of that. You must be a beast

that is some good advice below. I haven't done clings since High school.
lol thats nothing. you should see me do max rep at over 765lbs (8 plates) no straps, just chalk. but there are plenty of guys my size (230 lbs plus 8 percent or below bf) who can do those kind of weights. in town there is larry clark, jonathan clark, (both bike riders, taught me how to ride when i was a kid) anton semiglou (my bestfriend) who can deadlift over 900lbs. I have been powerlifting (for football and for the sport itself) continuously for over 12 years now.

but for bodybuilding deadlifts builds quad, lat, and trap, hips, and forearm thickness like no other exercise. only drawback is that sometime people get very wide obliques from them. and well what happened to me lol.
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well you are really not really supposed to do clings, squats, or other compounds during this phase. you are not trying to work out for hypertrophy in the phase you are in. you are only trying to workout to prevent athrophy. I hate cut phases. fortunately for me. I stay lean all year round naturally.
Right, however i am superhuman and im able to gain lbm while cutting.
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