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Old 11-25-2011, 08:03 PM   #1
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Who Knows Honda Accords? No Dash Lights, No Running Lights - What Gives?

Model: 1999 Accord DX 4-door sedan with 4 cylinder, US version (no daytime running lights).

What happened: Hooked the car to a utility trailer that has a probable short in the wiring. At first there were no issues, but a few miles later I stopped to fuel the car and discovered that I had no instrument panel (dashboard) light (although the idiot lights, gauges themselves, and interior dome light work as they should), no running lights (front or rear), and no license plate lamp. However, headlights work as they should, hazard lights work as they should, brake lights work as they should and turn signals work as they should.

What I have done since: Checked all fuses under the hood and under the driver's side kick panel. No fried fuses. I've done a lot of Internet searching and I can't seem to find anyone that knows anything about how to resolve this issue. There are some that point to fuses and some that point to multiplex boxes, but no definitive answers in fact, even the "master mechanics" seem to guessing at resolutions. The people that say multiplex boxes don't really address the brake light issue - most multiplex supporters (for other people's problems) point to loss of dash lights and other interior things (like electric windows, etc.)

Worth noting: This same trailer blew a fuse on a Toyota Tacoma with similar results (no dash lights or running lights), but, as I said, a fuse returned these things to life. Not so with the Honda.

Also worth nothing (only because it's been brought up in some people's posts): This car has had an Alpine deck in it since 1999 but has never had any issues with lights or any other thing until now. I suppose you could blame the deck (like some people have in some Internet stuff I've read), but this is a bit of a stretch since I've had no issues until now. That said, it's electrical, so yeah, anything could happen. No cut wires, no installed aftermarket , nothing like that. Almost completely stock and unmolested car.

Who has solid ideas?
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Old 11-25-2011, 08:20 PM   #2
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Could be the combination switch.

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Old 11-25-2011, 08:32 PM   #3
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did you check the fuses with a test light or just inspect them? swap them out even if they look good, headlights have their own fuses
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Old 11-25-2011, 08:55 PM   #4
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hey Linz, bring it to my shop in tomball and I will fix it for free prolly, lmk, Tim
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Fusible link inline somewhere?
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Curious...did you use the pigtail on the back driver side in the trunk to wire the trailer or did you have the wires spliced?
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Trailer hookup is wired in with running lights, stop, and turn signal. Unhook the trailer, check the fuses then circuit. Use a test light to check the fuses. If things are okay with fuses and circuit, there could be short in the trailer, normally at the socket.
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:16 PM   #8
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Fixed.

For reference Honda uses three separate fuses panels, in three distinct locations. There's one under the hood, one under the driver's side dash kick panel, and one under the passenger's side kick panel. I wasn't aware of this passenger side fuse panel until I looked this morning.

Fuse #10 on the passenger's side fuse panel is labeled "license plate lamp", and it's a 10 amp fuse. It, however, controls the license plate lamp AND the running lights on all four corners, which, in the world of wiring circuits, is not completely atypical, but it would sure help if labels on the fuse panels were more clear (other labels were more indicative of the fuse that would be related, but ended up being a bit of false advertising). Anyway, my bad for not knowing of the passenger side fuse panel.


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Curious...did you use the pigtail on the back driver side in the trunk
Yes. And I have since 1999.
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