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Old 07-16-2018, 06:09 AM   #1
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Right now it seems like a cool demonstration of technologybut wait until they armor plate it and attach a machine gun.

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Cool looking but it's just a big RC toy. I'm sorry but electrical motors sound gay as . I'll take internal combustion anyday.
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Cool looking but it's just a big RC toy. I'm sorry but electrical motors sound gay as . I'll take internal combustion anyday.
so is the Tesla that I drive, but , it sure is fun to drive! 0 - 60 mph in 4 seconds, under $3 to do a daily round trip commute of 100 miles. show me internal combustion ANYTHING that can do both of those
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Letís have a race from here to Colorado. Iíll even give you a 8 hour headstart.
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so is the Tesla that I drive, but , it sure is fun to drive! 0 - 60 mph in 4 seconds, under $3 to do a daily round trip commute of 100 miles. show me internal combustion ANYTHING that can do both of those
maybe not those two but how about....it the internal combustion motor sounds better.

Btw which telsa is it? How much was it? And how long does it take to charge? And how many miles per charge?
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Letís have a race from here to Colorado. Iíll even give you a 8 hour headstart.
I never said it's good for road trips. it fits my demands better than any internal combustion engine could.

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maybe not those two but how about....it the internal combustion motor sounds better.

Btw which telsa is it? How much was it? And how long does it take to charge? And how many miles per charge?
I do miss the sound of internal combustion for my daily, but the boat satisfies that for me.

I have the 85D, the D means dual motor, 1 on front axle, one on rear. we got it used for $61k as a 2015 model. We plug it in every evening when we get home, it's fully charged the next morning. the highest charge rate i see at home is 28 miles/hour. the fastest I've seen at a Tesla charger on the road is 315 miles/hour. Our max distance per charge is about 265, but for daily use, its better for the battery to not charge above 90% and that gives us 238 every morning. the furthest down I've taken it in a day was about 40 miles remaining.
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I have the 85D, the D means dual motor, 1 on front axle, one on rear. we got it used for $61k as a 2015 model. We plug it in every evening when we get home, it's fully charged the next morning. the highest charge rate i see at home is 28 miles/hour. the fastest I've seen at a Tesla charger on the road is 315 miles/hour. Our max distance per charge is about 265, but for daily use, its better for the battery to not charge above 90% and that gives us 238 every morning. the furthest down I've taken it in a day was about 40 miles remaining.
Interesting. I would like to drive one one day.Sorry but I got more questions. That is a big difference from 28miles/hour vs the 315/for road charge. Where do you charge it when not at home? And how do they charge you to charge it? Say like you took it to dallas or SA for the weekend?
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Interesting. I would like to drive one one day.Sorry but I got more questions. That is a big difference from 28miles/hour vs the 315/for road charge. Where do you charge it when not at home? And how do they charge you to charge it? Say like you took it to dallas or SA for the weekend?
I RARELY charge it when i'm not home, like i said, I use the truck for road trips. I use a 40A 240v plug at home to charge. On the road, the Tesla superchargers each have their own transformer that charges with 400v DC current so they can go much faster. it's the equivalent of 240v 500A service but since it's DC, it doesn't go through the cars power inverter which is limited to 40 amps. Since my car was delivered to the first owner prior to 2017, it has supercharging free forever. I can actually drive it from here to Miami if i wanted for nothing but extra time to charge. There are quite a few hotels that have installed 40A chargers like i have at home so that i can charge while i sleep at the hotel, so even then, it's not a huge deal. On road trips, what i've found i the biggest drawback, is that the stated "range" of the car is based off of 300 watt hours per mile, or about 65mph when not drafting. 70mph is 330Wh, 75 is 360Wh, 80mph is 400Wh... so if you want to drive at those speeds when not drafting, range will be considerably less. 80mph drafting can get about 300Wh per mile.
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Interesting. I would like to drive one one day.Sorry but I got more questions. That is a big difference from 28miles/hour vs the 315/for road charge. Where do you charge it when not at home? And how do they charge you to charge it? Say like you took it to dallas or SA for the weekend?
I charge at home as well, I use the charger that came with the car and get about 28 miles per hour of charge. If you get the dual charger installed in the car you can buy the bigger Tesla connector and charge at double that. In reality you plug in when you get home and it can charge from 0-100 with plenty of time overnight.

the difference between the charge times from the home charger to the road trip super chargers is the home charger takes home AC current and converts it to the DC current for the battery. The super charger takes AC current from the grid and converts it to DC on it's own. This bypasses the cars inverter and pumps the power directly into the battery.

I've made multiple trips from Houston to McAllen and Dallas and traveled as far as Georgia. When going to McAllen I stop in Victoria and Kingsville. I've got the smaller battery car, a 70D so it takes a lot longer to charge on the road than other models. The 85 is the perfect inbetween car, you can get the 100D if you just need all the range you can get, which is about 335 miles on a charge. from Houston to McAllen in that car would be a single stop for 10 minutes.

Tesla also has the model 3 now which is cheaper if you don't mind a midsize car. The higher end ones start at 43K (after tax credit) for the long range Model 3 compared to 95K for the high end Model S. If all you want is the range then the Model 3 is fine.

If you get a used car that was made before March 2017 it has free supercharging for road trips, or if you buy a new Model S you can use a referral code to get it free as well. The model 3 does not offer free supercharging in any way. However look at it this way a guy drove from LA to NYC for $54 so really it's not that big a deal.
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Depends on how the hotel sets it up. They can be as slow as 10 miles an hour or as fast as 56ish. From what I've seen they are usually 28 or 56. It also depends on whether you have the the small or big charger in the car when using the small home/hotel chargers.

The superchargers speed depends on the car. The bigger the battery the faster you can charge. My 70kwh car would get about 158 miles in 40 minutes. SB's car is a 85D and would get about 184 miles. The new 100D model would get about 220 miles in the same 40 minutes.

When traveling, the goal isn't to fill up the battery to 100% the goal is to fill up just enough to get to the next station. It might take 45 minutes to get to 80% but it'll take another 30 minutes to get from 80-100%. When I travel I leave the house around 90-95% set the autopilot to 90mph and stop in Victoria and Kingsville.

Here's a comparison of 3 models; the 70, 85, and 100 The difference between my 70D and the 100D is 30 minutes and one less stop. Notice the fastest way to travel you don't actually charge back to 100% every time. These times assume you're traveling 120% the posted limit with a top speed of 85mph.

If you were to pay for that 320 mile trip it'd cost about $8.50 in electricity

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