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Old 10-26-2017, 09:01 AM   #1
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New Bike Question

Iím over all a new rider been on a few times, but thatís it very much a beginner. Iím looking to get a sports bike there a bunch of different ones out there and I was wanting to know from people that actually ride not from what sales person is going to tell me just for me to buy it. In your opinion whatís the best bang for the buck for a motorcycle? I want something thatís going to be reliable and is going to last. Thanks for any and all input. Fairman
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Old 10-26-2017, 09:17 AM   #2
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Buy used because there's a high probability you may drop the bike eventually.
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I think the absolute best way to start is on a used 300 (Kawasaki Ninja 300, Yamaha R3, etc). The 300s are so user friendly, nimble, fun to ride, good gas mileage, cheap to buy and insure, and they'll still go as fast as you need to go on the freeway.

If you are of the mindset that a 300cc bike just doesn't provide enough power for you, the only step up I would take is to something like a Suzuki SV650, Honda CBR500, or a Kawasaki Ninja 650, or maybe even a Yamaha FZ-07. Definitely don't buy a supersport (like a GSX-R, ZX-6R, CBR600RR, R6, etc).
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i have bought and sold several jalopies on 2 wheels. so far in my adventures, the cbr250r was the easiest to fix, ride, and flip. i bought it for like $1300 i think it was, and put about $100 into it. it was very reliable, sipped gas, and wasnt too much power for a beginner, but it was still relatively quick. you could flog the out of it and it just took it all.
i really wish i had kept it, to have a bike to just play with. really, check out the cbr250r. such an easy bike to ride and around with. jumping speedbumps will never be as fun on my vfr800, lol. the little cbr was ridiculous fun.
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First bike should be a cheap bike that fits one purpose: you learning how to ride. Overall, bikes are cheap. Don't buy your first bike thinking it is going to be with you for a long time. Instead, I'd recommend you being a 2k bike to see a a learning tool that you expect to drop and out grow in a short amount of time. In an 6 year span, I think I went through a close to a dozen bikes.
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:20 AM   #6
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pretty much agree with everything that has been said.
if you are any where near a normal human being, your first bike, will be just that, your first bike...don't go heavy... use it as a learning tool... many more bikes will follow...
I add my two cents to the 250/300 size bike...
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score a cheap ninja 250 and ride the panties off of it!!!
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I was looking at a Kawasaki 650, Honda CBR and the Yamaha FZ 06 I think. Iíve read a lot of people get a 300 or 250 and want a bigger one. Ive been looking on Craigslist and seen some good ones for about $3,000-$5,000
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im taking the riders course next week so I hoping to have a better idea by then
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I was looking at a Kawasaki 650, Honda CBR and the Yamaha FZ 06 I think. Iíve read a lot of people get a 300 or 250 and want a bigger one. Ive been looking on Craigslist and seen some good ones for about $3,000-$5,000
Wanting a faster bike is fine, but you should know that none of those people are "outgrowing" their ULW (300cc class) bikes. A 300 goes as fast as anyone needs to go on the street, for sure. You should see the number of people who get butthurt by getting the paint sucked off their Panigale or S1000RR as a 300 passes them on the track.
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I was looking at a Kawasaki 650, Honda CBR and the Yamaha FZ 06 I think. I’ve read a lot of people get a 300 or 250 and want a bigger one. Ive been looking on Craigslist and seen some good ones for about $3,000-$5,000
The learning curve on a lightweight is less steep than a bigger bike. You will have a more manageable bike to learn on, cheaper insurance, and if you play your cards right (trackdays, instruction, practice) you could become a better rider sooner than squids who like going fast in straight lines.

Kawasaki is coming out with a new Ninja 400. Depending on your timeline on buying, I would either hold out for that or scoop up the KTM RC390.

Also, dont forget to budget for quality gear. And save some money for trackdays!
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I was looking at a Kawasaki 650, Honda CBR and the Yamaha FZ 06 I think. Iíve read a lot of people get a 300 or 250 and want a bigger one. Ive been looking on Craigslist and seen some good ones for about $3,000-$5,000
dont bother with a bigger bike yet. a first bike really is a first bike. when i started riding back around 2005, i never would have believed i'd have gone through like 15 bikes. i'm not a wealthy person by any means! almost each purchase was a bad move for me financially, lol.
just stick with a 250/300 for a few months until you start feeling confident. dont bother with the nicest looking 250, or the one with the best street cred. find something you can flog, drop, work on a little, and sell down the road.
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The learning curve on a lightweight is less steep than a bigger bike. You will have a more manageable bike to learn on, cheaper insurance, and if you play your cards right (trackdays, instruction, practice) you could become a better rider sooner than squids who like going fast in straight lines.

Kawasaki is coming out with a new Ninja 400. Depending on your timeline on buying, I would either hold out for that or scoop up the KTM RC390.

Also, dont forget to budget for quality gear. And save some money for trackdays!
schooley, weren't you also a 390 owner? lol, ED, STAY AWAY FROM KTM'S 390
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understand that if you are indeed that new to riding, you will learn more as a rider and progress in your skills much faster on a good 250 or 300 than you will on a 600 or larger bike... it is quite simple and quite true that the smaller bike will make you a better rider in the long run. When you do develop your skill, the time on the smaller bike will make you faster on the bigger bike.
The idea of wanting a bigger bike soon, is mostly ego... it will be quite some time (if ever) before your skills exceed the capability of the 250/300 class bikes. Once you get some time on your bike, consider doing a track day or 3, you will find the 250/300 class bike will do quite well there. I am getting old and do not ride much at all anymore, but of all my bikes, my favorite to ride, the one I enjoy myself on most, is my TMGP 115...loads of fun...
look around at how many of the guys who have been riding for years have among their stable a small F7 to F5 bike and play around on the Kart tracks...
cheap and extremely enjoyable tracking.
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I don't have as much experience as some here, only been riding for about 11 years, but I will never buy another new motorcycle.

Find a good used bike, style of your choice, and enjoy.
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fz-07 is best bang for your buck bike around right now, and every comparison and review online from any major mag or anyone that owns one will tell you.

If you can score one used, it's a great bike thats easy enough to ride as a newb, but powerful enough to keep you happy for a long time.

If not that, look for cheap ninja 250/300/500 or another water-cooled parallel twin
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First bike isn't your last bike, sir. Don't worry about it being bad , fast, or you might get bored, etc... Just get a bike on the cheap and ride it until you're comfy.
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Depends on how tall and how much you weigh.If you are under 5 10 and under 180 pounds the 250 and 300 route might be the way to go. But if you are taller and heavier then get the susuki sv 650 or kawasaki ninja 650 or maybe honda cbr 500 you probaly keep them longer .
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Used SV or a Ninja 650 would both be excellent choices. Buy one cheap ride off craigs list it for a year or so and then get the bike of your dreams.
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