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Old 11-09-2010, 06:30 PM   #1
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Patrick--Gasoline Additives

I've read and heard that with the latest increase to 15% ethanol in the gasoline mixture in and around Houston the injectors are getting gummed and plugged on motorcycles? Any comment on that? Also, if an additive is to be used, do you have any specific recommendations as to what to use and how often? A few buddies and I are about to make a trip to the 3 Sisters for a day or two of riding and a poorly running engine would be a terrible thing to adjust to.
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ive always liked SeaFoam...
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:39 PM   #3
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Seafoam can cause detonation at high rpm.
I've never been a big fan of "gas treatments", but unfortunately the we're being sold as "fuel" sucks.
That said, I've tried different products trying to counteract a lot of th eissues ethanol give us. The best I've found so far is a product called Startron.
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yea additives are not the best route, i try to stay away.
sea foam, or lucas fuel treatment was always what was sugguested to me.

startron i have never heard of but will def look into.


that is the right stuff eh/??
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do the local parts stores carry this product??
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the local Motorcycles Unlimited stores carry it And if you're on the southside of town, there's a certain employee that would be willing to truck it down for you
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Some do. I do now too.
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This stuff was recommended by a boat mechanic also
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Patrick, thanks for the suggestion. I may stop by this afternoon on the way home from work. From the last 2 entries, my question may have started rattling of sabers. I didn't mean to do that. I just wanted some "educated" advice. Thanks.
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I found that if you run the fuel through the injectors fast enough theres no trouble. j/kin
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the local Motorcycles Unlimited stores carry it And if you're on the southside of town, there's a certain employee that would be willing to truck it down for you
well if i cannot find it i may have to go that route.
im in clearlake.
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Some do. I do now too.
if i get up there for you to tweak my suspension and i havent picked ne up i sure will
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I have a friend in florida that uses startron in all his boats and dirt bikes. I have heard that the the ethanol makes the mixture burn a little lean.
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just curious, I'm still running carbs (jetted) and haven't noticed any problems. Bike even set up for months with no fuel stabilizer. Still has great power, idles smooth, and gets about 50 mpg on long highway trips. Is this just an FI thing? Patrick?
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just curious, I'm still running carbs (jetted) and haven't noticed any problems. Bike even set up for months with no fuel stabilizer. Still has great power, idles smooth, and gets about 50 mpg on long highway trips. Is this just an FI thing? Patrick?
not just a fi thing. in fact carbed bikes suffer the worst and this product would best be served in carbed motors.
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not just a fi thing. in fact carbed bikes suffer the worst and this product would best be served in carbed motors.
I wonder why I haven't had issues then
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I wonder why I haven't had issues then
could be that the place you buy gas at actually has.....gas,lol. not ethanol . just don't change the place you fuel up.
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yea additives are not the best route, i try to stay away.
sea foam, or lucas fuel treatment was always what was sugguested to me.

startron i have never heard of but will def look into.


that is the right stuff eh/??

If you can't find this @ an automotive or motorcycle supply store... go to a boat supply store. Since most boats use plastic fuel tanks; the ethonal will eat the plastic and create a flim/sludge the will destroy the fuel system and engine of boats. I used to work @ Boaters World and had several people replace fuel tanks and rebuild / purchase new engines because of what the ethonal did to untreated fuel; especially if the fuel was left in the tanks for longer periods of time.
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I wonder why I haven't had issues then
Like you posted in another thread, before you were jetted you did have issues.
The ZZR does not have a very small pilot circuit and it could be that whoever jetted it made it larger too as well.
Some bikes are more sensitive to it due to thier carb design, be glad yours isn't.


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If you can't find this @ an automotive or motorcycle supply store... go to a boat supply store. Since most boats use plastic fuel tanks; the ethonal will eat the plastic and create a flim/sludge the will destroy the fuel system and engine of boats. I used to work @ Boaters World and had several people replace fuel tanks and rebuild / purchase new engines because of what the ethonal did to untreated fuel; especially if the fuel was left in the tanks for longer periods of time.
Yep, I had to replace the plastic tank in my '04 Jeep last year. I only had 12,000 miles on it and when we pulled it out it was crumbling.
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Boats with fiberglass tanks are worse off than plastic. The resin is being dissolved and distributed through the fuel system.
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