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Old 01-11-2019, 07:26 AM   #81
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How do you feel about affirmative action, though?
any time I take action, I do it in the affirmative.
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any time I take action, I do it in the affirmative.
Seriously though? I'm against racism, but I find a lot of people have a double standard where it's not okay to be racist, unless it's toward white people and then they somehow justify that discrimination. Virtue signaling.
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you mean like TV commercials that make the woman look smart and in control while the man is kinda stupid?
Ever notice that its always a white man that looks like an idiot?
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you mean like TV commercials that make the woman look smart and in control while the man is kinda stupid?
Ever notice that its always a white man that looks like an idiot?
I was referring more to colleges and employers who openly show preference toward "people of color"/have a quota for X amount of X race to fill a position, even though the white person may be more qualified. What they're really saying is "we aren't currently accepting white people", which is definitely racism, but people claim that it's not racist.

But yeah there's an open attack on head of household type males too, and masculinity in general. It's all over TV. Look at any family cartoon. Family guy, The simpsons, American dad and on and on...they're always made to look like a totally inadequate moron where the woman is always smart and calling all the shots. I like that new nationwide commercial where the guy wrecked the family car and they make him out to be a total idiot with his wife acting like shes his mom or some .
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Then they always throw out how "women are safer drivers" in just about every insurance commercial.
Yeah that's because they don't drive as often. I don't know about you but any time I've ever been in the car with any of my GF's, they want me to drive. Which is totally fine, but don't claim you're a better driver when you aren't even comfortable driving and I'm driving about twice as often.

Same with womens wages. They're lower because they work less hours on average. Obviously if they're leaving for months at a time on maternity leave, or are working part time to supplement their husbands income, or are constantly showing up late/leaving early to pick up their kids, or if they physically aren't able/don't want to do some of the more demanding physical labor type jobs and instead opt for something like waitressing, or administrative work...yeah that's going to drive down the average wage statistically. Let's be honest here.
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affirmative action is an issue that comes at you from differing directions.
First off is the emotional side, I stand against racism and the mistreatment of anyone who has not done something to bring it on themselves. Everyone should be able to receive the benefits of their talents and efforts.
Then there is the academic side that causes you to evaluate the circumstances of each event.
Over 40 years ago when the equal rights issue and affirmative action became a reality, there was both emotional and academic justification for it. Things have changed, in many ways for the better, but not all for the better.
Today there is still emotional justification for affirmative action in federal services and in the private work force. Academic justification would be a bit harder to come by.
On paper we all have the same opportunity for education and advancement as far as the color of our skin goes. That is not always 100% true, but on the surface it appears as it is. There is no longer segregation in the educational system. Academically today if anyone gets anything based upon their skin tone, it is racism...even though the media would not present it as such.
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affirmative action is an issue that comes at you from differing directions.
First off is the emotional side, I stand against racism and the mistreatment of anyone who has not done something to bring it on themselves. Everyone should be able to receive the benefits of their talents and efforts.
Then there is the academic side that causes you to evaluate the circumstances of each event.
Over 40 years ago when the equal rights issue and affirmative action became a reality, there was both emotional and academic justification for it. Things have changed, in many ways for the better, but not all for the better.
Today there is still emotional justification for affirmative action in federal services and in the private work force. Academic justification would be a bit harder to come by.
On paper we all have the same opportunity for education and advancement as far as the color of our skin goes. That is not always 100% true, but on the surface it appears as it is. There is no longer segregation in the educational system. Academically today if anyone gets anything based upon their skin tone, it is racism...even though the media would not present it as such.
I agree with you. During my short professional career and being a person of color, I have never experience racism outright. I think the bigger problem we are facing more now is economical classism. I believe that will never go away though.
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I agree with you. During my short professional career and being a person of color, I have never experience racism outright. I think the bigger problem we are facing more now is economical classism. I believe that will never go away though.
I think a lot of the elites/politicians would like to brainwash the general public into thinking classism is racism. For the most part they've been successful lol
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I agree with you. During my short professional career and being a person of color, I have never experience racism outright. I think the bigger problem we are facing more now is economical classism. I believe that will never go away though.
it really complicated there... and some of it appears to be racism when it is indeed classism...while we all, regardless of color, go to the same schools, sit in the same classrooms, taught by the same teachers... we do so in our school districts...so in reality, not all kids in the country, in any given state, get the same quality of "opportunity" to an education. The situation is less color obvious (than in my day, I am old enough that I went to segregated schools for a number of years), but the situation has shifted...there is no easy answer and there will always be levels of success because lets face it, some people are smarter than others, some people work harder and some people just want it more than other and are more aggressive...fair for everybody does not mean equal achievement...
the only real question that we can ask, and maybe not be able to answer satisfactorily is whether there is actual opportunity...Oprah said luck was when hard work and preparation meets opportunity.
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This is why I moved to the country. the bullshit. Tired of sensitive city people
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What I mean by that is, in the city everything you do is considered offensive. The reverse racism is old and played out. It's completely ok as long as it's a whitey type situation but anytime it makes a minority look bad the race card is pulled. I miss the good old days where we were raised right. To accept responsibility for our actions no matter how it made us look. Man the up and take responsibility. If I ever did anything wrong it was an whoopin and apologize to the person, face to face. Now all these snowflakes growing up with no discipline acting like professional victims. It's disgusting.
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[QUOTE=bumblebee;4168080]Ever notice that its always a white man that looks like an idiot?[/QUOTE>>> that's because WHITE people prefer red styrofoam MAGA caps and the lefties wear all sort of cool >>> kinda like comparing the folks in a HARLEY ad to the girl biker in THE GIRL WITH A DRAGON TATOO >>> it's harder and harder to be cool and WHITE when the WHITE leader is a faux orange 70 year old lying cheat who never has done one macho thing in his filled life but now thinks he has the stuff to lead a delta force raid
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Ever notice that its always a white man that looks like an idiot?[/QUOTE>>> that's because WHITE people prefer red styrofoam MAGA caps and the lefties wear all sort of cool >>> kinda like comparing the folks in a HARLEY ad to the girl biker in THE GIRL WITH A DRAGON TATOO >>> it's harder and harder to be cool and WHITE when the WHITE leader is a faux orange 70 year old lying cheat who never has done one macho thing in his filled life but now thinks he has the stuff to lead a delta force raid
Do you think people would be acting this way if crooked Hillary got elected? Honestly. She should legit be in prison right now for treason at the least. The orange man hasn't done anything half as bad as her and yet people act like he is the devil. Watch some old interviews with Hillary and listen to the racist she has said and see how hypocritical people are.

I'm not saying he is the perfect leader, but I would rather have 50 orange presidents than 1 Hillary or Bill.
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>>> HRC is a sorry _itch that participated in or championed every dumb domestic & foreign policy failure that she could claim the stage for and for that she deserves the NEVER HILLARY tag BUThow many old ladies would forgive their old man for in house BJs with the help and for that she qualifies as a "keep her until something better comes along" type so i guess america dissolves into a truly world full of AR toters, cops, entrenched elites, poor negroes, LGBTQXYZ??????s and drones all living lives in walled off gardens with plastic flowers to brighten each day
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>>> HRC is a sorry _itch that participated in or championed every dumb domestic & foreign policy failure that she could claim the stage for and for that she deserves the NEVER HILLARY tag BUThow many old ladies would forgive their old man for in house BJs with the help and for that she qualifies as a "keep her until something better comes along" type so i guess america dissolves into a truly world full of AR toters, cops, entrenched elites, poor negroes, LGBTQXYZ??????s and drones all living lives in walled off gardens with plastic flowers to brighten each day
Usually I can make some sort of sense of your posts.. but this one.. lol
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Seriously though? I'm against racism, but I find a lot of people have a double standard where it's not okay to be racist, unless it's toward white people and then they somehow justify that discrimination. Virtue signaling.
you have something against virtue now????? come on!!! there's no winning with you snowflakes
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