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Old 07-10-2018, 12:45 PM   #21
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I blame it on the postage stamp developments. Simply there is nowhere for kids to ride conveniently without negative consequences.

A kid hasnít lived proper until you rode a Briggs and Stratton mini bike with no brakes while wearing flip flops!



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This is why I gave up street riding (except my dual sport which is only used to get from trail to trail and on beer runs) Its not worth it to ride the street anymore and I would NEVER encourage my kids to ride the street. Now trail riding, dirtbiking and track I would encourage as the risk is alot less.
I see myself riding less and less street the older my daughter gets. Commuting on a bike is no longer appealing for a number of reasons. 1. Other drivers suck 2. Itís a straight line the whole way 3. It can rain sometimes without warning

I trailer my bike for a couple hour ride to the country rather than actually ride it there because itís just not appealing making it from point a to b on 2 wheels anymore.


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I think part of it is our society.

We label everything TOO DANGEROUS and teach our kids to stay safe and protect them from everything.

Growing up as a kid, I couldn't wait to ride a motorcycle. I was infatuated with them.

Parents USED to get out and ride dirt bikes with their kids. Which, in turn gave them some experience and a "drive" to get their own motorcycles when they got older.

These days, the younger generations just don't have an interest or the physical skills needed to operate one. They feel "unsafe", and everything these days are supposed to be SAFE SAFE SAFE.


This is all just my opinion. I could be wrong.
that's what i see in our neighborhood. I never see any other kids besides mine out riding their bike down the road to visit friends. mine go all over but the other's never come to mine. I think there are too many parents that feel it's unsafe and don't let the kids live, and therefore, don't let them wonder around, much less have a motorized toy.
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This is why I gave up street riding (except my dual sport which is only used to get from trail to trail and on beer runs) Its not worth it to ride the street anymore and I would NEVER encourage my kids to ride the street. Now trail riding, dirtbiking and track I would encourage as the risk is alot less.
I don't. I think I am been alot more hurt from motocross and trail riding than I ever have on the street.

As far as being a part of a dying breed. doesn't bother me I got to do what I love and I am still doing it. If millenials are too big of pussified netflix imbred snowflakes to ride, I don't care. Less morons on the road texting when driving.
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I remember as kids I had a little xr70 and a couple other kids had bikes. We would ride the bayous everyday for hours as soon as we got out of school. Sometimes the cops would chase us and sometimes they didnít care. It was fun as and I wouldnít trade those memories for anything. I would love to see kids today hauling through the bayous on 50s. Better than staying inside.
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I remember as kids I had a little xr70 and a couple other kids had bikes. We would ride the bayous everyday for hours as soon as we got out of school. Sometimes the cops would chase us and sometimes they didnít care. It was fun as and I wouldnít trade those memories for anything. I would love to see kids today hauling through the bayous on 50s. Better than staying inside.
No kidding. We had a blast riding dirtbikes. We had the ole trails that we would make jumps and do all kinds of crazy things. Only time a had a cop pull a gun on me was when I was riding some oil fields and he said halt and I said whatever until he shot a round off in the air and then I stopped. Wait one other time a cop drew on me when I was jumping sand traps on a golf course(forgot about him) Man that judge was at me... I guess cause I was 32 years old.
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I remember as kids I had a little xr70 and a couple other kids had bikes. We would ride the bayous everyday for hours as soon as we got out of school. Sometimes the cops would chase us and sometimes they didnít care. It was fun as and I wouldnít trade those memories for anything. I would love to see kids today hauling through the bayous on 50s. Better than staying inside.

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Old 07-10-2018, 05:21 PM   #28
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Well, I'll play devil's advocate. Is crossing the Beltway and riding the streets (bicycles) nearly as "safe" today as it was 20 years ago? I think traffic counts are up as well as distractions to most drivers these days. I live near a tributary, I do hear dirt bikes and four wheelers on a pretty routine basis...seen some hooligans even ride them in the streets.

You act like you didn't stay inside during the heat of summer beating on the ol' Hewlett Packard keyboard playing DOS editions of Wolfenstien. BS. My kids are still too young to compare, but at the age of like 8 I was running the hood, bayous, went all the way to JV for the "jumps" and magazines and then stopped by Circle K to see if I could get a glimpse behind the plastic cover in the magazine section. Kids get the at fingertips these days....they don't have to go looking for it.

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The safety issue is the most important to me. Bigger and faster is so dangerous to the potentially new rider because what if he can't stop fast enough and he goes right off the edge of the flat earth????
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I think part of it is our society.

We label everything TOO DANGEROUS and teach our kids to stay safe and protect them from everything.

Growing up as a kid, I couldn't wait to ride a motorcycle. I was infatuated with them.

Parents USED to get out and ride dirt bikes with their kids. Which, in turn gave them some experience and a "drive" to get their own motorcycles when they got older.

These days, the younger generations just don't have an interest or the physical skills needed to operate one. They feel "unsafe", and everything these days are supposed to be SAFE SAFE SAFE.


This is all just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Bingo. Too much risk, so let's no do it.
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Bingo. Too much risk, so let's no do it.
So they can get nice and old and never have any fun in life because of the chance they might get hurt. It's really sad when you think about it.
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hey, I'm a millenial and I can deny every negative comment said here yet sadly, I can agree to an extent for the whole, looking from the outside in I can say that hardly anyone in my generation rides motorcycles (even more so possess the mechanical skills to work on anything), and most would be afraid to and for good reasons, honestly. Motorcycles aren't for everyone
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Public image plays a major part. To the layman, the only times they see motorcycles is leather wrapped Sons of Anarchy wannabes, hoards of idiots stunting on busy public roads, or a crotch rocket running from the cops. The media will never report on the average motorcyclist because it won't get ratings. Just the how all gun owners are viewed as rednecks or criminals to the gun fearing public. The best way to keep and grow the sport is for us to pass it on to friends and family.
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Coming up at 10pm, Joe Blow rode his bike to work today. Did he have a nice ride home? We'll tell you after the break.
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US, "Biker gang take over the city and terrorizes public."
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Hey what is wrong with hoards of idiots stunting on public roads? Don't be a hater. Or running from the cops for that matter(maybe the rider doesn't have the time to pull over and be hassled by the man) If the man wants to catch us, maybe he needs to trade his crown vic in on a gixxer.
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Sorry for being late to the conversation.

Y'all aren't thinking this through by just blaming millennials and their "bubble-wrapped childhoods." The motorcyle sales drop off is due the direction our entire society is going, Gen Xers included (sorry, yall aren't perfect).

The average millennial income (age 22-35) is $35k a year. You all should know well that does not allow for much hobby money with where today's living expenses are. Motorcycling gives us an adrenaline rush- aka a dopamine dump. The millenials are able to get that same dopamine dump by playing video games and through social media. I get it- it's sad as , but they're still fullfilling their needs by doing it this way (and at a much cheaper cost). If they are not "gamers" they still spend their time outside, but just like the article stated, they prefer biking and hiking. Why is that? Again, restricted income. I have plenty of friends who want to join the sport, they just simply can't afford it. We all know that motorcycles aren't cheap. Replacing gear constantly isn't cheap. And maintenance isn't getting any cheaper (Even when you do it yourself). Look at what the Grom did to Honda's sales. They made a fun, affordable bike that was perfect for college kids and hipsters, and the millenials took it and ran with it.

Then there's the reality that a vast majority of motorcyclists are buying motorcycles used and abused off of Craigslist- not new models off the showroom floor. Second hand motorcycles aren't going to keep an entire industry going. Especially when they aren't being purchased at dealerships. If you guys want to save the industry, we need Gen Xers to start buying new motorcycles from local dealerships. After that, they need to find a non-motorcyclist friend and get them to buy a new bike from a dealership. Can't afford it? Then how do you get off accusing a generation in the lowest income bracket that this is their fault? Baby Boomers left a gap, and Gen Xers need to step up- not skip ahead to blaming millennials.

Having trouble convincing your friends? Maybe it's because we all know how up riding on the streets are nowadays. EVERYONE has their phone sitting in their lap while driving and couldn't give a about safe driving. The fear of being rear ended is much more prominent in today's society versus the Baby Boomer's generation. So people now have easier access to dopamine, at a cheaper cost, in controlled environments. People will risk breaking a leg mountain biking before risking some asshat rear ending them and permanently disfiguring or killing them.

Obviously there are a multitude of reasons for the industry to be on the decline. Look at the broader picture instead of just jumping on this bullshit, "Millenials are ruining everything" bandwagon.

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