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Old 04-13-2018, 11:05 AM   #141
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It's against HPD policy to PIT anyone at 70mph. It has to be done at lower speeds. I don't want a cop to shoot me, so I guess we should go all Great Britain and not allow patrol officers to carry guns.
Yea but in the UK and much of Europe they don't get behind you when they pull you over they get in front of you before they turn the lights on.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:11 AM   #142
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Ok, Bill.

If you are in your car, and a car comes into your lane.....do you honk and shoot the finger? Or do you ram them?

OR...... do you roll down your window and punch their mirror?
Ok I want to get in on this answer.

I drive an old beat up lifted 4 wheel drive with tires and berf bars that stick out. So I can run there over then blame them for coming into my lane. That'll teach their to pay attention.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:18 AM   #143
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I'm kinda a black and white thinker so here goes...

Every day I back my bike down the driveway, I ask myself "How many idiots are going to pull into my lane today?" I'm acknowledging that some idiot is going to do something idiotic that could potentially put me in harms way. By doing so, I'm exercising the first part of my discipline by SETTING my expectations.

So...now I'm riding along when idiot #1 texting on their cell phone starts veering into my lane...

1. I honk
2. I'm already prepared to take evasive action
3. I take recovery action
4a. If cager is acts like a douche, I flip him the mid, and burn off
4b. If cager is cool, I'm cool, wave, and burn off

Either way, I burn off. It's not worth my life, my bike, my ability to work and support my family, and a whole slew of other things...just to make a point, stick out my chest, manifest my ego, or rule the road. This is the second half of exercising my discipline, called MANAGING my expectations.

If I SET, and then MANAGE as so, then I don't get off. If I don't get off, then I maintain discipline. If I maintain discipline, then I don't do stupid . If I don't do stupid , then I keep my life, my chest, my ego, and my rule of the road that I'm on. It's really that simple.

Mr. Hendrickson did not set expectations, manage expectations, nor maintain discipline. As a result, he engaged in a high risk situation, then suffered the consequences. FAIL #1

That said, Mr. Bonilla did none of the same, and is now charged with felony battery. FAIL #2

It's simple math...3500lb car versus 450lb bike. The information is there...we know this going into it. For us to ignore the information as a result of lack of managing ourselves, our expectations, and/or maintaining our discipline, then we should not be shocked as to the potential results.

Now both of them have lost a lot, and both of them are to blame. But I HAVE NO DOUBT that if Mr. Hendrickson would have just taken recovery action and then burned off, that this incident would not have escalated. Every fire has a spark that starts it. We usually have opportunities to put out that spark before it starts to smolder. As such, we shouldn't be shocked that it turns into a four-alarm fire when we fail to take advantage of those opportunities.

Mr. Hendrickson - FAIL
Mr. Bonilla - FAIL

I have no pity for either.
Even though I agree with what you said.
You just ruined a perfectly good troll thread with intelligent post. That just f'ed me all up.
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Even though I agree with what you said.
You just ruined a perfectly good troll thread with intelligent post. That just f'ed me all up.
No worries...it's like weeds..more will crop up soon...Same forum. Same group...
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If they are in my lane then and we make contact. Whether it was with my foot or fist. Then they hit me. I have every right to be anywhere between those 2 lines that mark my lane.
But is it legal to damage their property? If they come into your lane and you punch their mirror and break it, is that legal?
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But is it legal to damage their property? If they come into your lane and you punch their mirror and break it, is that legal?
Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 wouldnt you?
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But is it legal to damage their property? If they come into your lane and you punch their mirror and break it, is that legal?
I don't have a law degree how the do I know. Go ask a lawyer. The way I see it I didn't even know they were there at my fingers are just going to sleep from the handlebars vibration and I was stretching my arm out try and get my fingers to wake back up.
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Boy you said a mouthful there
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And I won't be sticking around l to get judged by 12 or carried by 6
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And I won't be sticking around l to get judged by 12 or carried by 6
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