body position is the key to getting faster....

houseofpaint · 10-04-2011, 01:39 PM

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Joshua42007 · 10-04-2011, 01:46 PM

Great write-up and some pretty awesome shots, thanks.

zerobounds · 10-04-2011, 01:50 PM

cool article, thanks for posting.

Chubby Racer · 10-04-2011, 01:53 PM

Thanks for this. I sort of agree on the hyperfocus on body position being unnecesarry.

triumphant675r · 10-04-2011, 02:07 PM

Great write-up, thanks for posting!

AaronP220 · 10-04-2011, 02:39 PM

Nice write up, Tony!

Martinez · 10-04-2011, 02:59 PM

Great stuff. Loved the article.

slowposer · 10-04-2011, 03:22 PM

good stuff tony...i totally agree. i was personally plagued with being obsessed with body position (check screen name).
now i find what youve posted to be more of the key to going fast.
i see that the "goon in leathers" technique is where its at lol.

F4injected · 10-04-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by slowposer

good stuff tony...i totally agree. i was personally plagued with being obsessed with body position (check screen name).
now i find what youve posted to be more of the key to going fast.
i see that the "goon in leathers" technique is where its at lol.

same here! Nice write up!

GABRIEL · 10-04-2011, 03:58 PM

When I am trying to go faster I try different lines. I do understand your point in trying too hard on BP. When I go out in novice I use it as a time to work on lines and BP. I think I go faster when I get my head down and try to move.
I dont run lap timers.
I dont like being crossed up because in races I can feel that I am way more uncomfortable and I feel that it takes more effort to move around. Makes more of a difference when I ride in an endurance race.

THE DEAN OF LEAN · 10-04-2011, 04:58 PM

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floyd600 · 10-04-2011, 05:10 PM

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floyd600 · 10-04-2011, 05:12 PM

I've try to work on my BP.. but found my self running wide or going slower then what I was going before when I was just riding and letting my body do its thing.

Now.. here and there I do work on getting my head down and making sure my upper body is not stiff and all the way in the air...

Good stuff as always tony!

ormand · 10-04-2011, 05:45 PM

Great writeup Tony

Versatile337 · 10-04-2011, 09:37 PM

I'm glad that someone way faster than me agrees with me. I felt like my first trackday was all about body position. I'm like it's too hot and we're going too slow for all that .

Supa Dave · 10-04-2011, 09:57 PM

Great write up. I've been focusing so much on bp lately. The next time I hit the track (hopefully 10/16) I'll try this and not focus on so much bp and focus more on my comfort level instead.

will report back after.

THE DEAN OF LEAN · 10-04-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by floyd600

I've try to work on my BP.. but found my self running wide or going slower then what I was going before when I was just riding and letting my body do its thing.

Now.. here and there I do work on getting my head down and making sure my upper body is not stiff and all the way in the air...

Good stuff as always tony!

I think that is the exact poit tony was making. Work on it but dont let it consume your time on track. Looks like your a good student too lol

Vegas Kid · 10-04-2011, 10:12 PM

Awesome write up.

ivancuriel · 10-04-2011, 11:52 PM

I've only done one track day, but by lunch time at GSS I had found a comfortable riding position and started working on things like my line and braking. This is great information. Usually the first thing is for new riders is "gotta work on bp" but people need to learn when to transition their focus when they find what is comfortable to them.

MGZT · 09:04 AM

I wonder also if you ride with someone faster/advance level, would it make your learn faster? ...instead of riding with people at the same level of group..

I'm assuming that by riding with someone with better skill than you, you'll learn their line and the speed instead of figuring that on your own?

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10-04-2011, 02:59 PM	#7
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10-04-2011, 01:46 PM	#2
Joshua42007 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Feedback Rating: (2) Posts: 3,625 Experience: 1-3 months Bike(s): 06' GSX-R 1000	Great write-up and some pretty awesome shots, thanks.

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AaronP220 Sir Ballmanship Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NW Houston: Jersey Village Feedback Rating: (5) Posts: 20,446 Experience: 5 years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): 2011 Fleshlight	Nice write up, Tony!

10-04-2011, 03:22 PM	#8
slowposer pose slower Join Date: Sep 2006 Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 703 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): bikeless :(	good stuff tony...i totally agree. i was personally plagued with being obsessed with body position (check screen name). now i find what youve posted to be more of the key to going fast. i see that the "goon in leathers" technique is where its at lol.

10-04-2011, 03:58 PM	#10
GABRIEL Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SW/SE Houston Feedback Rating: (14) Posts: 7,505 Experience: 1-3 months	When I am trying to go faster I try different lines. I do understand your point in trying too hard on BP. When I go out in novice I use it as a time to work on lines and BP. I think I go faster when I get my head down and try to move. I dont run lap timers. I dont like being crossed up because in races I can feel that I am way more uncomfortable and I feel that it takes more effort to move around. Makes more of a difference when I ride in an endurance race.

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10-04-2011, 05:12 PM	#13
floyd600 Grip it and Rip it!! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Missouri city Feedback Rating: (8) Posts: 7,235 Experience: 8 years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): 07 R6 Track/Race (sold) 08 R6 Track/Race-RIP	I've try to work on my BP.. but found my self running wide or going slower then what I was going before when I was just riding and letting my body do its thing. Now.. here and there I do work on getting my head down and making sure my upper body is not stiff and all the way in the air... Good stuff as always tony!

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Versatile337 They call me V or Franco Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pearland Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 2,121 Experience: 4 years Trackdays: 1 Bike(s): 2009 GSX-R 750 (Blk/Matte Blk)	I'm glad that someone way faster than me agrees with me. I felt like my first trackday was all about body position. I'm like it's too hot and we're going too slow for all that .

10-04-2011, 09:57 PM	#16
Supa Dave The Chupacabra Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sugar Land Feedback Rating: (2) Posts: 1,817 Trackdays: 7 Bike(s): GSX-R 600 KX250 (sold)	Great write up. I've been focusing so much on bp lately. The next time I hit the track (hopefully 10/16) I'll try this and not focus on so much bp and focus more on my comfort level instead. will report back after.
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Vegas Kid Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Cypress Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 4,910 Experience: 3 years Trackdays: 3 Bike(s): 07 R6-sold 12 TTR 50	Awesome write up.

10-04-2011, 11:52 PM	#19
ivancuriel Sancho Pedotes Join Date: Apr 2010 Feedback Rating: (4) Posts: 647 Experience: 1-3 months Trackdays: 1 Bike(s): 2009 Yamaha R6 Raven. 2012 Yamaha R1 Moto GP Edition	I've only done one track day, but by lunch time at GSS I had found a comfortable riding position and started working on things like my line and braking. This is great information. Usually the first thing is for new riders is "gotta work on bp" but people need to learn when to transition their focus when they find what is comfortable to them.

10-05-2011, 09:01 AM	#20
MGZT No, I don't know KungFu Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Memorial and Gessner Feedback Rating: (1) Posts: 241 Experience: 9-12 months Trackdays: 6 Bike(s): Aprilia RSV4R 05 R1	I wonder also if you ride with someone faster/advance level, would it make your learn faster? ...instead of riding with people at the same level of group.. I'm assuming that by riding with someone with better skill than you, you'll learn their line and the speed instead of figuring that on your own?
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