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Old 04-22-2013, 07:27 PM   #21
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:33 PM   #22
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Not to add anymore but the guy does seem "there" and holding himself up in the chair... I pride myself on pain threashold but if my legs were just blown off I think I'd be kinda limp in that chair...

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Old 04-22-2013, 09:21 PM   #24
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Pointless discussion.

If we didn't allow terrorists into our country we wouldn't need to be concerned about bombings or the need to speculate on alleged conspiracies.
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Pointless discussion.

If we didn't allow terrorists into our country we wouldn't need to be concerned about bombings or the need to speculate on alleged conspiracies.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:08 PM   #26
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Pointless discussion.

If we didn't allow terrorists into our country we wouldn't need to be concerned about bombings or the need to speculate on alleged conspiracies.
Dont forget that "citizen" have caused way more havok than this

see:
aurora shooting : 12
Newtown : 20+
Columbine: 13
UT sniper: 16

look at daily violence that has deaths greater than 3 from everyday citizens. If you really think "outside" terrorist are the problem I disagree

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Old 04-22-2013, 10:25 PM   #27
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Dont forget that "citizen" have caused way more havok than this

see:
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Newtown : 20+
Columbine: 13
UT sniper: 16

look at daily violence that has deaths greater than 3 from everyday citizens. If you really think "outside" terrorist are the problem I disagree
I think the thousands of people who died at the WTC and in the pointless war that followed will disagree.

Regarding other crime, I think it is pretty well established what demographics make up the majority of the prison populations.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:08 PM   #28
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Well I will agree on the pointless war part, but that is about it. I am sure if you were over there getting droned strikes you would think the same thing about our country.

So let me guess your ideal goal is to invade a country and try and eliminate equal or greater to the number of lives lost during 911 and that will make everything better? Did you feel the say way about .. "terrorist" aka anyone not born here before 911 or did 911 all of the sudden just make you super patriotic and classify anyone outside as "terrorist"?

I forgot all of those prisoners strike daily fear and bring "concerned about bombings or the need to speculate on alleged conspiracies."
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:32 PM   #29
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Well I will agree on the pointless war part, but that is about it. I am sure if you were over there getting droned strikes you would think the same thing about our country.

So let me guess your ideal goal is to invade a country and try and eliminate equal or greater to the number of lives lost during 911 and that will make everything better? Did you feel the say way about .. "terrorist" aka anyone not born here before 911 or did 911 all of the sudden just make you super patriotic and classify anyone outside as "terrorist"?

I forgot all of those prisoners strike daily fear and bring "concerned about bombings or the need to speculate on alleged conspiracies."
I believe in not interfering with peoples affairs to the point that radical ideas take root and some of them are raised to believe they have no other recourse but to attack us. I also know that middle eastern terrorism and resentment for America there did not exist prior to 1947. Many of them hate us for interfering in their affairs and supporting their oppressors.

If we did not fuel this resentment or allow them the opportunity to carry out these acts we would not be having this discussion. And, if it were not for our culpability, our misplaced support of that certain middle eastern "ally", my response would otherwise be a few carefully placed brilliant flashes a few seconds apart, for far less money and troop casualties.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:35 PM   #30
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Understandable , just wanted to see where you were coming from with things.
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Not to add anymore but the guy does seem "there" and holding himself up in the chair... I pride myself on pain threashold but if my legs were just blown off I think I'd be kinda limp in that chair...
Shock and adrenaline allow the human body to do crazy things when seriously wounded.

The femoral artery is compromised in this instance. If they hadn't got that tied off before wheeling him he would have bled out.
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Shock and adrenaline allow the human body to do crazy things when seriously wounded.

The femoral artery is compromised in this instance. If they hadn't got that tied off before wheeling him he would have bled out.
I once saw an electrician fall at a jobsite, tore his upper arm nearly in half and only one or two drops of blood. You could see bone. When the paramedics arrived, they were like, "HOLY !"

Ran him out to the ambulance and tried to secure the wound before it started gushing!

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The femoral artery is compromised in this instance. If they hadn't got that tied off before wheeling him he would have bled out.
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