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silverfudge · 07-21-2008, 07:28 AM

Usually in political forums, there's a fair bit of diversity, and because of this, users are challenged to defend or back up their claims and/or statements by other users etc. Theyre also forced to consider the possibility of offending others before posting.

This is not the case here.

Because of this, the level of debate here is very shallow, research here is very limited, and claims are supported without being backed up. I cant change that nor penalize for it. HOWEVER, I can penalize users for disrespecting others and others beliefs.

That being said, I ask all of you to consider others when posting.

NoFear · 07-21-2008, 07:30 AM

But out gramps....

j/k Good job

sbfuller · 07-21-2008, 08:00 AM

maybe you could anonymise users in a certain section? that way there would be no hard feelings in person

mekrew · 07-21-2008, 08:08 AM

but then you cant e-hate people where is the fun in that

sbfuller · 07-21-2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mekrew

but then you cant e-hate people where is the fun in that

true... but you may also get more honesty in the thread... for example... there may be more obama fans but are scared of being chastized for being so... so they don't speak up in a debate

Sifu-TZ · 07-21-2008, 08:13 AM

yes, but we all will instantly recognize "AHEM" (certain dang-slinging fundumbmentalists) even while cloaked in anonymous garb.
this should improve things. as long as I can make fun of peoples' religion, of course. and mine.

silverfudge · 07-21-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sbfuller

true... but you may also get more honesty in the thread... for example... there may be more obama fans but are scared of being chastized for being so... so they don't speak up in a debate

Exactly.

Frankly, the this section, as it is now, turns a lot of people off.

sbfuller · 07-21-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by silverfudge

Exactly.

Frankly, the this section, as it is now, turns a lot of people off.

so when a user posts in a political debate thread... don't post their usernames or info... have it be anonymous user or each person can pick an alternate screen name for political discussions and they don't have to reveal their other name

miraculous dan · 07-21-2008, 08:48 AM

Is this because I called Bill an idiot? Look Bill, I'm sorry, but you didn't have to go whining to the mods. Geez.

silverfudge · 07-21-2008, 08:53 AM

I don't think people are afraid to post, I think they just dont have a desire to.

You know, that "lost cause" kinda feeling.

sbfuller · 07-21-2008, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverfudge

I don't think people are afraid to post, I think they just dont have a desire to.

You know, that "lost cause" kinda feeling.

maybe

Gixxer Geezer · 07-21-2008, 08:55 AM

Personally all the debates and knowledge seekers and free thinkers are boring me to death.. i dont even go in those threads anymore... give me good old pwering and im good ... thanks...

sbfuller · 07-21-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gixxer Geezer

Personally all the debates and knowledge seekers and free thinkers are boring me to death.. i dont even go in those threads anymore... give me good old pwering and im good ... thanks...

I'm with you on that,.... if it a political title... i won't even click it. That "adult euthanasia" thread... it was like 3 days old before i even clicked it... and even then, i wished i hadn't.

gixxerbill · 07-21-2008, 09:27 AM

What happened to Radar's post? It was there and then it was gone?

CaJuNsOuLjA · 07-21-2008, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverfudge

Usually in political forums, there's a fair bit of diversity, and because of this, users are challenged to defend or back up their claims and/or statements by other users etc. Theyre also forced to consider the possibility of offending others before posting.

This is not the case here.

Because of this, the level of debate here is very shallow, research here is very limited, and claims are supported without being backed up. I cant change that nor penalize for it. HOWEVER, I can penalize users for disrespecting others and others beliefs.

That being said, I ask all of you to consider others when posting.

100% COSIGN.

Perfect header for this section as well

Circus indeed...

lilmckee · 07-21-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gixxerbill

What happened to Radar's post? It was there and then it was gone?

Ogre · 07-21-2008, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbfuller

so when a user posts in a political debate thread... don't post their usernames or info... have it be anonymous user or each person can pick an alternate screen name for political discussions and they don't have to reveal their other name

Frankly, I think this would have a negative affect. If people engage in personal attacks now, just imagine how free they'll get with some of it when their name isn't on it.

If someone is unwilling to put their name and reputation on a comment, then should keep it to themselves. IMHO

Azylum · 07-21-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogre

Frankly, I think this would have a negative affect. If people engage in personal attacks now, just imagine how free they'll get with some of it when their name isn't on it.

If someone is unwilling to put their name and reputation on a comment, then should keep it to themselves. IMHO

i agree. people need to just learn how to express their opinions without being insulting. ive been guilty of this from time to time.

gixxerbill · 07-22-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by miraculous dan

Is this because I called Bill an idiot? Look Bill, I'm sorry, but you didn't have to go whining to the mods. Geez.

Dude, you should know I have thicker skin than that. Mod whining is for babies.

JSki · 07-22-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Azylum

i agree. people need to just learn how to express their opinions without being insulting. ive been guilty of this from time to time.

+1. The only way your point of view will get heard is if you keep your cool. I have noticed that when I re-read some of my posts when in a debate that my points start to get skewed if it's something that I am attached to. When that happens it is time to walk away from it or step back and re-examine your point of view and a find good way to explain what is on your mind. Just my opinion.

Oh, and it is about time we got a babysitter in here to stop some of us idiots from mouthing off too much.

07-21-2008, 07:28 AM	#1
silverfudge superfast jellyfish Join Date: Nov 1980 Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 5,435 Experience: 1 year	READ Usually in political forums, there's a fair bit of diversity, and because of this, users are challenged to defend or back up their claims and/or statements by other users etc. Theyre also forced to consider the possibility of offending others before posting. This is not the case here. Because of this, the level of debate here is very shallow, research here is very limited, and claims are supported without being backed up. I cant change that nor penalize for it. HOWEVER, I can penalize users for disrespecting others and others beliefs. That being said, I ask all of you to consider others when posting.

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07-21-2008, 08:08 AM	#4
mekrew naaaaaw i sayin Join Date: Apr 2005 Feedback Rating: (4) Posts: 9,481 Experience: 1-3 months Trackdays: 10+	but then you cant e-hate people where is the fun in that

07-21-2008, 08:13 AM	#6
Sifu-TZ #1 Satans' Buttnuggets Join Date: Jun 2005 Feedback Rating: (1) Posts: 15,252 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): Husky 450SMR motard	yes, but we all will instantly recognize "AHEM" (certain dang-slinging fundumbmentalists) even while cloaked in anonymous garb. this should improve things. as long as I can make fun of peoples' religion, of course. and mine.

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miraculous dan Quality tuna fish. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tampa, Fl Feedback Rating: (6) Posts: 4,583 Bike(s): Honda VFR	Is this because I called Bill an idiot? Look Bill, I'm sorry, but you didn't have to go whining to the mods. Geez.

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silverfudge superfast jellyfish Join Date: Nov 1980 Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 5,435 Experience: 1 year	I don't think people are afraid to post, I think they just dont have a desire to. You know, that "lost cause" kinda feeling.

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