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kenup283 · 09-10-2018, 06:25 AM

A rider with a history of altercation does his best to end his career in frustration once and for all... FIM bans him for next two races, current team drops him for rest of year, next years factory team contract up in shreds as MV Agusta CEO dumps him too..

BigComfy · 09-10-2018, 07:06 AM

his "official" response (google translate)

http://www.romanofenati.it/news.php

I apologize to the whole sports world.
This morning, with a clear mind, I wish it had been just a bad dream.
I think and I think back to those moments, I made a disgraceful gesture, I was not a man!
A man would finish the race and then go into Race Direction to try and get justice for the previous episodes.
I should not have reacted to provocations.
The criticisms are correct and I understand the resentment towards me.
I want to apologize to everyone who believed in me and all those who felt hurt by my action.
An image of me and of sport has come out, everything, horrible.
I'm not like that, who knows me well knows!
In my career, I've always been a good driver. Last year I was one of the few who did not receive any penalties, I never put someone else's life in jeopardy, on the contrary, I have always maintained that there are dangerous pilots, on the track, for driving style.
It's true, unfortunately I have an impulsive character, but my intention was certainly not to hurt a pilot like me but I wanted to make him understand that what he was doing was dangerous and that I could have made some mistakes as well as he he had just made them to me!
I do not want to justify myself, I know that my gesture is not justifiable, I just want to apologize to everyone.

Japawhat02 · 09-10-2018, 07:10 AM

Wow......

BuckNut · 09-10-2018, 07:28 AM

Not having BeIn sports really starting to suck.

loosenoose · 09-10-2018, 08:33 AM

he keeps calling it a "gesture". pulling a dude's brake lever isn't so much a gesture as it is a "potentially lethal move". i don't follow professional motorsports, but this is a move that should see him banned from the sport. just my 2 cents.

cesj · 09-10-2018, 11:07 AM

Nah... move but if he really had bad intentions he would have squeezed a LOT harder. He is probably feeling enough reprecussions from losing MV contract and sponsorships.

kenup283 · 09-10-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cesj

Nah... move but if he really had bad intentions he would have squeezed a LOT harder. He is probably feeling enough reprecussions from losing MV contract and sponsorships.

I agree the reaction by many is a bit overboard. I would not like it done to me for sure,...but the other guy was penalized for dangerous riding that led up to all this...

The reactions from the teams is higher than normal over this too because his current ride is like being on probation already after being kicked out of Rossi’s organization for hitting a crew member...

So this is the misdemeanor parole violation that gets him thrown back in the slammer. It also didn’t help that the other guy he brake checked rides for the team who will run the factory MV bikes that he was due to ride for next year.

Fast rider, yes, but not a very smart one...

RC45 · 09-10-2018, 01:46 PM

Similar things have happened before - and even sometimes "the rubbin is racing" brigade are even more dangerous as they bang fairings to the front.

The social media driven over reaction and hype is actually par for the course.

This is how the modern "connected world" reacts.. over reacts at every turn.

Suspension would be enough. If life time bannings start getting handed out then how long before Kamikaze style last turn braking maneuvers also start getting painted as attempted murder?

Bevo · 09-11-2018, 05:56 AM

That's naughty

Oskar_Z28 · 09-11-2018, 08:59 AM

Remember Canepa - I think he is still racing somewhere.

bumblebee · 09-11-2018, 09:21 AM

I don't think discussion of a permaban is an overreaction.
What he did was a pretty dangerous, intentional move that may have caused the other rider to crash shortly after. I think discussion of a ban should be on the table.

Ultimately, it won't fall to the online community to decide his fate and really if the punishment is nothing more than what's happening to him now it may turn out the same.
If nobody will give him a ride, his fate is sealed.

Bevo · 09-11-2018, 11:41 AM

It's one thing to react and ride aggressively. It's another when it's a premeditated intentional act that is clearly against the rules. There is no gray area here.

obed · 09-11-2018, 11:58 AM

I think a suspension for a full season is in order. It was a deliberate act, a planned act not a quick heated response. It is revenge after the fact, so yes he should be gone.
He may be gone anyway...

RC45 · 09-11-2018, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oskar_Z28

Remember Canepa - I think he is still racing somewhere.

I was thinking about his incident that ended in a crash. Riders have been doing bone headed road rage for ever. Did Canepa get criminally charged for this? I don't think he got banned

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bumblebee · 09-11-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RC45

I was thinking about his incident that ended in a crash. Riders have been doing bone headed road rage for ever. Did Canepa get criminally charged for this? I don't think he got banned

Apparently he wasn't banned, although it looks like he was charged.
According to the articles linked below, the incident took place during a trackday at Mugello. With his explanation in the article, I think he may have had a reasonable enough version to avoid trouble in the racing world.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...ay-at-mugello/

Also this article, mentions that he was riding for Yamaha earlier this summer, so he wasn't apparently permabanned, even if he might have been suspended...

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...ike-at-misano/

RC45 · 09-11-2018, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bumblebee

Apparently he wasn't banned, although it looks like he was charged.
According to the articles linked below, the incident took place during a trackday at Mugello. With his explanation in the article, I think he may have had a reasonable enough version to avoid trouble in the racing world.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...ay-at-mugello/

Also this article, mentions that he was riding for Yamaha earlier this summer, so he wasn't apparently permabanned, even if he might have been suspended...

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...ike-at-misano/

With that explanation if I am on the jury, Canepa walks.

In Fenati's case, his history of road rage seems to be chumming the social media waters. And we all know, social media loves to destroy people with glee.

BigComfy · 09-11-2018, 01:32 PM

Criminal charges are being considered. https://jalopnik.com/racer-who-grabb...e-i-1828964861

EnergyHOU · 09-11-2018, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oskar_Z28

Remember Canepa - I think he is still racing somewhere.

What happened? I must have missed this

bumblebee · 09-12-2018, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnergyHOU

What happened? I must have missed this

Read the articles i linked in post 15

kenup283 · 09-12-2018, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnergyHOU

What happened? I must have missed this

Funny thing about that one was at the time the video came out it was already 2 years old... so all the permanent ban talk had to deal with the fact he’d been racing for 2 years after this without any issues.

From a PR side though I remember the headlines were EBR world superbike ridder charged with Assault. Did not matter that when it happens he was a Ducati rider in WSBK. The internet was up at arms

Now he’s factory Yamaha test rider and endurance world champion.

https://www.yamaha-racing.com/endura...niccolò-canepa

09-10-2018, 06:25 AM	#1
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09-10-2018, 07:06 AM	#2
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RC45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 351 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): Some old 2 stroke track bikes	Similar things have happened before - and even sometimes "the rubbin is racing" brigade are even more dangerous as they bang fairings to the front. The social media driven over reaction and hype is actually par for the course. This is how the modern "connected world" reacts.. over reacts at every turn. Suspension would be enough. If life time bannings start getting handed out then how long before Kamikaze style last turn braking maneuvers also start getting painted as attempted murder?
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09-10-2018, 08:33 AM	#5
loosenoose veteran novice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: montgomery Feedback Rating: (2) Posts: 4,473 Experience: 10+ years Bike(s): vstrom650	he keeps calling it a "gesture". pulling a dude's brake lever isn't so much a gesture as it is a "potentially lethal move". i don't follow professional motorsports, but this is a move that should see him banned from the sport. just my 2 cents.

09-10-2018, 11:07 AM	#6
cesj Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 57 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): 2009 YZF-R1 2007 YZF R6 TZ250	Nah... move but if he really had bad intentions he would have squeezed a LOT harder. He is probably feeling enough reprecussions from losing MV contract and sponsorships.

09-11-2018, 08:59 AM	#10
Oskar_Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston Feedback Rating: (0) Posts: 368 Experience: 10+ years Trackdays: 10+ Bike(s): 15 GROM 17 FZ10	Remember Canepa - I think he is still racing somewhere.

09-11-2018, 09:21 AM	#11
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