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Old 02-02-2018, 12:52 PM   #681
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They finally sent me my 'before' lab results (5 weeks later.) I'm an unhealthy slob apparently.

is the 413 after you have been using test?
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:13 PM   #682
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Yep pretty well known, appt's are a little hard to get on the scheduled though.

Or when all else fails just FINA!
Is Lipshultz worth the wait? I made an appointment over a month ago and still have 5 months to go. Waiting list is six months long for new patients. WTF.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:50 PM   #683
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Just go to IMC, do your research, and check your labs every 4-6 mos. you wont be missing much between Liptz and other clinics, they all use the same compounding pharmacies.

There is also another Dr. off voss that just started a clinic that is prob taking appts too.
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3 weeks at increased dose. I am literally a that can walk and talk at this point.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:40 AM   #685
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3 weeks at increased dose. I am literally a that can walk and talk at this point.
Do you have the energy of a 19 year old and the strength of Thor?
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Do you have the energy of a 19 year old and the strength of Thor?
No, but my pants are now nothing more than a holster for Thor's hammer.
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Like being in high school when you gotta tuck your in your waistband to keep the tent from being obvious. That seems like more of an inconvenience if your not leaping buildings in a single bound and tearing phone books in half.
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is the 413 after you have been using test?
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Is Lipshultz worth the wait? I made an appointment over a month ago and still have 5 months to go. Waiting list is six months long for new patients. WTF.
It was for me, last two people gave me the run around, I have insurance/ deductible and the total office visit ended up being $384. The thing about Lipshultz is they don't around in his office, and try this or that or diet changes or tell you you're 43 points off on a 1200 point scale so we can't treat you. If you find another doctor that's no bull and straight to treatment then use that doc. Lipshultz seems to be the go to because he got his medical degree in the 60s and and gets straight to the point.

I had a 6 month wait as well, someone(s) canceled and they bumped my appt, 2mth wait overall.

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3 weeks at increased dose. I am literally a that can walk and talk at this point.
What dose are you at?
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It was for me, last two people gave me the run around, I have insurance/ deductible and the total office visit ended up being $384. The thing about Lipshultz is they don't around in his office, and try this or that or diet changes or tell you you're 43 points off on a 1200 point scale so we can't treat you. If you find another doctor that's no bull and straight to treatment then use that doc. Lipshultz seems to be the go to because he got his medical degree in the 60s and and gets straight to the point.

I had a 6 month wait as well, someone(s) canceled and they bumped my appt, 2mth wait overall.



What dose are you at?
They have me at 180mg per week. Got an appointment with another doc bluewave recommended. Was only a 6 week wait.
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Actually got to see lipschultz this week. Feel better already.
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Actually got to see lipschultz this week. Feel better already.
how much stronger are you per arm?. Say like a flat dumbell presses? Usually when i am on I can 15 to 20lb more per arm within a couple of weeks.
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They finally sent me my 'before' lab results (5 weeks later.) I'm an unhealthy slob apparently.

, I'm going to get my endocrinologist to check my test levels again this year. I got tested a couple years back and wasn't much over the lower level of "normal" (can't remember what the number was and can't find the results now) but she said she wouldn't do anything for me because I was still in the "normal" range. I am going to ask about possible interactions though, as I've been seeing her for a thyroid issue for over 10 years. Not sure how much of what I'm dealing with might just be from that, and it has me hesitant to see a separate specialist. She's one of the "let's fully change your diet and exercise habits for the next 6 months and check again" types. I'm about to turn 35, so I can't see it possibly being any better than a few years ago.
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Old 03-28-2018, 03:24 PM   #693
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, I'm going to get my endocrinologist to check my test levels again this year. I got tested a couple years back and wasn't much over the lower level of "normal" (can't remember what the number was and can't find the results now) but she said she wouldn't do anything for me because I was still in the "normal" range. I am going to ask about possible interactions though, as I've been seeing her for a thyroid issue for over 10 years. Not sure how much of what I'm dealing with might just be from that, and it has me hesitant to see a separate specialist. She's one of the "let's fully change your diet and exercise habits for the next 6 months and check again" types. I'm about to turn 35, so I can't see it possibly being any better than a few years ago.
Some doctors are just really conservative on roids and some of them really don't know about them and what they do know is propaganda that is bs.

Are you tired? Not much energy? drive not as good? Seems like it is really hard to lose weight?
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Are you tired? Not much energy? drive not as good? Seems like it is really hard to lose weight?
Hard to say... I've got two young boys, and generally sleep about 6 hours a night. Yes, I'm generally tired. Likewise, I've been dealing with thyroid issues since high school (Grave's disease), and while it's been fairly well sorted for the last several years, I have noticed having energy issues around the times I've needed my medication adjusted. Lower drive? Yes, more or less. Not quite what I'd call E.D., but just in the last 6 months or so, there are times when it doesn't seem to matter how much my brain wants it, my body just doesn't get on board. Sometimes just the next day, no issues. Of course, my wife is also 7 months pregnant, and her drive has been all over the place as well, and, well, . Also don't know how much of this to attribute to "just getting older", as I'm 35 and don't expect to have the exact same drive I had at 20. Don't need to lose weight, I'm a fairly skinny guy as it is.

It's just frustrating when I notice changes (like over the last 6 months or so) where I do have issues with drive, fatigue, when there's nothing else about my routine that's changed (not eating worse, exercising any less, etc). I'll have her order a test to check my levels again though when I go in for my annual blood work and go from there.
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Well Lipshultz office seemed to me over. They told me it was a $60 copay for the visit, however, they never actually contacted my insurance to verify coverage they just went off of the general idea of Aneta charges $60 for specialist visits. Now I've got two bills one for $380 for the doctor and $400 for the labs.

The insurance company is telling me they don't cover it and there is no record of anyone calling to confirm coverage. The doctors office is telling me they just go off of the information they have in their system and I need to discuss it with my insurance.

So needless to say I'm a little that I give them all of my insurance information, I tell them why I'm there and the woman in Lipshultz's office tells it's $60 with my insurance. That to me tells me you checked that my insurance covers the procedures they knew they were about to do. They knew right off the bat the insurance wouldn't cover the scripts though?
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Some doctors are just really conservative on roids and some of them really don't know about them and what they do know is propaganda that is bs.

Are you tired? Not much energy? drive not as good? Seems like it is really hard to lose weight?
well the wife being 7 mos might be some of the problem. The rest of the stuff could be low test. You are pretty young to have the problems you are having so it might be a test problem. Blood work is the best course of action now to see what you are dealing with.
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Well Lipshultz office seemed to me over. They told me it was a $60 copay for the visit, however, they never actually contacted my insurance to verify coverage they just went off of the general idea of Aneta charges $60 for specialist visits. Now I've got two bills one for $380 for the doctor and $400 for the labs.

The insurance company is telling me they don't cover it and there is no record of anyone calling to confirm coverage. The doctors office is telling me they just go off of the information they have in their system and I need to discuss it with my insurance.

So needless to say I'm a little that I give them all of my insurance information, I tell them why I'm there and the woman in Lipshultz's office tells it's $60 with my insurance. That to me tells me you checked that my insurance covers the procedures they knew they were about to do. They knew right off the bat the insurance wouldn't cover the scripts though?
That sucks. Would be cheaper to go to a clinic. Some of the clinics will let you self inject and you only have to go in once or twice a month at $50 a pop. What insurance do you have? Is it an hmo? Have to get a referral with an hmo?
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That sucks. Would be cheaper to go to a clinic. Some of the clinics will let you self inject and you only have to go in once or twice a month at $50 a pop. What insurance do you have? Is it an hmo? Have to get a referral with an hmo?
$50 just seems so high to me too and that is probably for test 200 prop. So only 100mgs a week. I get a 10ml 250mg enant vial for $50 that will last me 10 weeks. I know we need doctors but alot times I don't think we need doctors.
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I forget what it was, don't have the job anymore. It just me off when someone tells me it's covered by my insurance and charges me the copay, then says oh Aetna USUALLY covers it. So I'm supposed to let you take an $800 gamble because Aetna usually covers it and you're to lazy to actually call and verify coverage. If they had said anything other than you're covered I would have waited for them verify coverage. I had the appointment for like 2 months they could have mentioned it at any point or told me what to ask my insurance company. Instead they say I'm covered.
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I forget what it was, don't have the job anymore. It just me off when someone tells me it's covered by my insurance and charges me the copay, then says oh Aetna USUALLY covers it. So I'm supposed to let you take an $800 gamble because Aetna usually covers it and you're to lazy to actually call and verify coverage. If they had said anything other than you're covered I would have waited for them verify coverage. I had the appointment for like 2 months they could have mentioned it at any point or told me what to ask my insurance company. Instead they say I'm covered.
I have Aetna and they covered the doctor's visit other than the $60 copay. They covered everything but $194 on the labwork.
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