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Old 11-20-2009, 09:46 AM   #1
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Talking 'You can't vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man!'

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The Rev. Jesse Jackson on Wednesday night criticized Rep. Artur Davis (D-Ala.) for voting against the Democrats’ signature healthcare bill.

“We even have blacks voting against the healthcare bill from Alabama,” Jackson said at a reception Wednesday night. “You can’t vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man.”

The remark stirred a murmur at the reception, held by the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) Foundation as part of a series of events revolving around the 25th anniversary of Jackson’s run for president. Several CBC members were in attendance, including Chairwoman Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), who’d introduced Jackson.

Davis, who is running for governor, is the only black member of Congress from Alabama.


He is also the only member of the CBC to have voted against the healthcare bill earlier this month.


Davis referred to Jackson’s 1988 run for president in a statement, issued through his office, that said he would not engage Jackson on his criticism.


“One of the reasons that I like and admire Rev. Jesse Jackson is that 21 years ago he inspired the idea that a black politician would not be judged simply as a black leader,” Davis’s statement said. “The best way to honor Rev. Jackson’s legacy is to decline to engage in an argument with him that begins and ends with race.”


Jackson said later that he "didn't call anybody by name and I won't."

He added that he wasn't saying that black lawmakers must vote a certain way. Instead, they should vote the interests of the people in their districts, and he said the healthcare bill would help Alabama because it's one of the poorest states in the country.

"The poorest people need healthcare protection," Jackson said. "They have the highest infant mortality and the lowest life expectancy. They're dying from lack of access."

Other members of the CBC found no fault in Jackson's words. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) was in the audience. He called Jackson's criticism of Davis "accurate," but said he did not hear Jackson say "You can’t vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man."

"If it is an issue that disproportionately impacts black folks, race has to be considered," Cleaver said. Jackson, he added, "is expected by his constituency to call and strikes."

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) called the remarks "vintage Jesse Jackson," but said Davis's vote against healthcare was consistent with a voting record more conservative than many CBC members.

"Artur Davis has a more conservative constituency," Waters said. "Since he's running for governor of Alabama, he reflects an even more conservative constituency."

Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Texas) said each man was doing what he considered the right thing.

"People have a right to vote their constituency, and people have a right to speak their conscience," Jackson-Lee said. "Both happened."

Davis’s Democratic primary opponent, Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, highlighted Davis’s status as the lone African-American vote against the bill.

“He was the only Black Caucus member to vote against it. I don’t get it,” Sparks said last week, according to The Associated Press. Sparks is white.

Davis said he voted against the healthcare bill because "House leadership's approach is not the best we can do." He said he preferred a version passed by the Senate Finance Committee because it reduces subsidization of the healthcare industry, taxes high-value health plans instead of wealthy people, and is more effective in getting employers to help with health coverage.


Davis has countered that Sparks’s position on healthcare has changed over time, saying he’s being “deliberately dishonest.”


The primary will be June 1. All of the GOP candidates for governor have been critical of the healthcare legislation, according to the AP.

This story was updated at 9:55 p.m.
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Sean, I hate to break this to you man, but I guess you are no longer a black man...
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Sean, I hate to break this to you man, but I guess you are no longer a black man...
Have you seen the color of his skin lately? He's whiter than I am....j/k Sean.

Why does race always have to be put front and center on just about every issue? It gets aggravating.
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Have you seen the color of his skin lately? He's whiter than I am....j/k Sean.

Why does race always have to be put front and center on just about every issue? It gets aggravating.
Wow Sean, you just learned in 2 posts that you can no longer "call yourself a black man" and that you're "whiter than" Dwayne... this must be a hard day for you.

On a serious note, I can't for the life of me understand why voting for the healthcare bill is a race issue... nevermind, Jesse Jackson is involved and that explains it.
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Wow Sean, you just learned in 2 posts that you can no longer "call yourself a black man" and that you're "whiter than" Dwayne... this must be a hard day for you.

On a serious note, I can't for the life of me understand why voting for the healthcare bill is a race issue... nevermind, Jesse Jackson is involved and that explains it.
I saw that last night on beck or oreilly. I couldn't believe it either. This whole race thing is getting down right silly. I can't believe anybody listens to that jesse jackson nut. Why he still has followers I have no idea and why Reverend Wright still has followers even baffles me more.
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Sean, I hate to break this to you man, but I guess you are no longer a black man...
I guess not...

...THIS is precisely why I say the current self appointed "leaders" of the "Black community" are a satchel of dumbasses. How do we go from: judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character to "you can't vote against the health care bill and call yourself a black man"? Jesse is delusional...he's right up there with those idiots that say speaking a certain way (viz. properly) provides validity to the argument that you've somehow lost your blackness GTFOH with that gahbage

Jesse needs to go sit his down somewhere and shut up
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:50 AM   #6
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Have you seen the color of his skin lately? He's whiter than I am....j/k Sean.

Why does race always have to be put front and center on just about every issue? It gets aggravating.


Yeah Jesse is an idiot...he and Quanell should move to some distant island never to be heard from again

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Wow Sean, you just learned in 2 posts that you can no longer "call yourself a black man" and that you're "whiter than" Dwayne... this must be a hard day for you.

On a serious note, I can't for the life of me understand why voting for the healthcare bill is a race issue... nevermind, Jesse Jackson is involved and that explains it.
Yeah I'm a bit confounded as to how not voting for a bill makes or unmakes one what he is...I'm black because my birth certificate says it, I don't need Jesse's retarded to validate me fool...
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I totally agree
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I've always wondered what MLK would say to those who inherited his movement.
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balck man or whites man or anty oth3er man? wassit matter? this dumb.
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The Rev. is absolutely one of the most racist fvcks in this country. He sickens me. Race relations would be done a world of good if someone put a bullet in his brainpan.
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I want to vote against it, but I also want to call myself a black man. is there any hope for me?
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I want to vote against it, but I also want to call myself a black man. is there any hope for me?
The sooner you admit that you're genetically predisposed to racism, the sooner you can start loving your whiteness ... embrace it and feel the warm fuzziness of oppressing the world.
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The sooner you admit that you're genetically predisposed to racism, the sooner you can start loving your whiteness ... embrace it and feel the warm fuzziness of oppressing the world.
screw that. if I can't be asian, I wanna be a black man. and I want to have hair too. and I want obama to pay for it with the money he gets from selling grampers' guns.
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