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Old 01-02-2019, 08:10 PM   #1
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09 FLHP Shipley Screamer

My 09 FHLP is about the slowest thing I own (Vrod, Rocket 3, K1300S) so I was bad during cyber week and took advantage of discount pricing.
Build is 110 kit, Woods 777 cams and misc support parts required to hold motor together

Decided to use money I saved on cyberweek to buy lift and got it assembled this evening. FLHP is in background
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Parts coming off. Had to work late and only got an hour in this evening. Got to figure out how to remove sump. Manual says rear tire has to come off as there is a crossmember under sump. I'm going to pull the the engine lower end out of bike for timken bearing install. Looks like tranny will just lift out and I can change sump w/o removing rear tire.
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:39 PM   #4
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Only got to spend a few hours on it this weekend. Motor is ready to come out. I was surprised to find the damaged cam and leaky head gasket.
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and the motor's out
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"Life happens" break-time over

Changed oil pan yesterday - motor had cam failure and there is really no good way to clean Twin-cam pan's baffle - riveted.

Discovered frozen rear fork bushings when manipulating trans to R&R oil pan. Have rear fork off and awaiting parts. Rear fork looks like it was only moving by deflecting rubber mounts - guess that is the reason I could never get the rear shocks to feel right. Ride should be SMOOTH when fixed - rear shock and FLHP seat shock.

Dark-Horse Cranks should be done with lower end any time now. Cost wasn't as bad as I thought.
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Changed oil pan yesterday - motor had cam failure and there is really no good way to clean Twin-cam pan's baffle - riveted.

Discovered frozen rear fork bushings when manipulating trans to R&R oil pan. Have rear fork off and awaiting parts. Rear fork looks like it was only moving by deflecting rubber mounts - guess that is the reason I could never get the rear shocks to feel right. Ride should be SMOOTH when fixed - rear shock and FLHP seat shock.

Dark-Horse Cranks should be done with lower end any time now. Cost wasn't as bad as I thought.
good to see you sent it off to DarkHorse. When word got around that I used them, I was widely criticised in the HD community for not using Greg at MCCreations. Problem there is that I've seen him screw over many others all while "giving me a deal and treating me right" (uh huh....). Unfortuntaly there isnt a HD mechanic shop in town that doesn't "screw over the other guy" but promises to take care of you.

Looking good. Its fun experience for sure.
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Did darkhorse do a good job for you?

I used Darkhorse as it was the one vendor that
-could adequately explain what they were doing,
-didn't treat me as an idiot,
-and had very little to no negative press on any forum I could find.

I've never done a harley motor before, but I've done a LOT of ford drag engines (FE, windsors and 460 strokers). At the level of performance I've chosen, lower-end work is centered around my vs Harley's compromise on cost control / engine durability Looking through my touring manuals, the twin cam is not a real difficult engine to build. It has looser tolerances than my antique tractors

I am currently searching for tuner that has same three qualities, so far this guy is in the lead.
https://www.thedynodifference.com/
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Did darkhorse do a good job for you?

I used Darkhorse as it was the one vendor that
-could adequately explain what they were doing,
-didn't treat me as an idiot,
-and had very little to no negative press on any forum I could find.

I've never done a harley motor before, but I've done a LOT of ford drag engines (FE, windsors and 460 strokers). At the level of performance I've chosen, lower-end work is centered around my vs Harley's compromise on cost control / engine durability Looking through my touring manuals, the twin cam is not a real difficult engine to build. It has looser tolerances than my antique tractors

I am currently searching for tuner that has same three qualities, so far this guy is in the lead.
https://www.thedynodifference.com/
No doubt Darkhorse came through for me. Actually the ROOT of all my problems came from Southern Motorcycle. I bought a set of flywheels and rods (used of course as they were early 70s) and had them installed into the lower end. For a year after, the engine sounded like a bag of hammers. I had another shop take it apart in front of me and easily show how the main pinion and rods were so completely worn and loose that it was a bomb waiting to happen. No wonder they "gave me such a great deal"! So we sent it off to darkhorse and it came back as quiet as a churchmouse. The shop that did my tuning was actually a friends shop where I rebuilt the bike and worked part time to help him out and pay for him overseeing my rebuild I was doing and learing about. Unfortunately those guys have all passed on and the shop is no more. I still have the bike though that I try to crank every couple of years.
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Dark Horse called me for money - should have lower end in a few days

Funny - Harley parts from out-of-state mail-order dealer have arrived. Parts ordered earlier from local dealer have still not showed up. Hoping to get swing arm parts before weekend.


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Still waiting for the local dealers ordered parts so I can re-install swing arm. That'll learn me from using the locals

Got the lower-end, started assembly, and promptly got blocked. Cam / crank sprockets misaligned by ~0.032. Book says 0.010 max. I need a $5 shim. May buy one one-line to get it moving this way. Will check local dealers once they open Tues after the Motorcycle Monday weekly holiday

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Well moving onwards

Got distracted got the garage Ipod working.

Managed to the cam chest sorted, pistons hung cylinders installed and heads torqued down

Found a scuffed rocker shaft in pre-install inspection. Replacing all rockers and shafts. Breathers also - the mesh inside was disseminating

Since I was hung on the rockers I temporarily install the valve covers to close up the motor and put on the stator

Local dealer FINALLY got the swing arm parts last week; I ordered them before Christmas. Hopefully Surdyke is quicker with the valvetrain - they certainly are cheaper.
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GD spell check. I guess since it was DISINTEGRATING it was being disseminated through the motor
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Machined oring boss fitting sockets into oil filter cooler adapter. Thermostatic oil bypass is still intact. The Harley oil cooler comes with just 1/8 mnpt hose adapter using Oetiker clamps as does any other adapter I could find. The modified oil cooler will pair with AN fittings / braided teflon hoses to ensure system integrity.
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Woo Hoo Engine in the FLHP. You better be a big ole boy if you ever have to put an assembled twin cam in the frame neatly

Still need to do some "engineering" in fabbing up braided oil cooler lines and routing them such they don't flop around and damage what they hook to. Every thing else should be straight assembly
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ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!

Ran two heat cycles today and need to run a few more tomorrow. Then it's off for a short road test and autotuning with the Powervision. I should wait to get it dyno-tuned but lord knows when shops will reopen
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