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Old 06-28-2009, 08:06 AM   #1
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First track day, what kind of tires

OK. I did a search and did not find a single match. I am about to have my first track day and want to know what tires I should have. I have been told that the Pirelli Rossa tire (which as I am sure most know is a dual compound tire) that I have on the back is fine and that I should probably match it on the front for track day, but I have a tendency to get myself in trouble at times (breaking before a turn too hard) and hear my back tire squawking (my suspension setup is stock, for a hundred and fifty pound rider, I am 200, don't know if that has anything to do with it)(also, the bike dives when I hit the front brake)(yes i know that I am a total noob). Will the classes for novices help take care of my poor riding (assuming I learn from them) skills and make it unnecessary for stickier tires for a while, or do I need something with a little more traction so I don't have to feel my bike sliding all over the place?
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sticky tires are always better but for your first tdma i wouldnt sweat it too much. just make sure the tires you have on are in good shape. relax and enjoy your new hobby. this stuff is more addicting than heroin.
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also make sure your pressure are set for track not strret. most street rubber should be at 30psi frt and rr.
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also make sure your pressure are set for track not strret. most street rubber should be at 30psi frt and rr.
Thanks for the advice
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pirellis or bridgestones from John Hutchinson at South Central Race Center.
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OK. I did a search and did not find a single match. I am about to have my first track day and want to know what tires I should have. I have been told that the Pirelli Rossa tire (which as I am sure most know is a dual compound tire) that I have on the back is fine and that I should probably match it on the front for track day, but I have a tendency to get myself in trouble at times (breaking before a turn too hard) and hear my back tire squawking (my suspension setup is stock, for a hundred and fifty pound rider, I am 200, don't know if that has anything to do with it)(also, the bike dives when I hit the front brake)(yes i know that I am a total noob). Will the classes for novices help take care of my poor riding (assuming I learn from them) skills and make it unnecessary for stickier tires for a while, or do I need something with a little more traction so I don't have to feel my bike sliding all over the place?

Do yourself a big favor and pay someone the 25-30bucks and have your suspension setup for your weight as best they can with stock internals. You'll save yourself a lot of heartache and drama by not having to focus as much on the inadequate suspension characteristics.

Make sure your tires have good tread life still (and aren't 10yrs old) and relax, have fun, and don't try to be fast on the first day. Take it home still shiny after the first trackday with a smile on your face and a soon to be depleting bank account.
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Do yourself a big favor and pay someone the 25-30bucks and have your suspension setup for your weight as best they can with stock internals. You'll save yourself a lot of heartache and drama by not having to focus as much on the inadequate suspension characteristics.

Make sure your tires have good tread life still (and aren't 10yrs old) and relax, have fun, and don't try to be fast on the first day. Take it home still shiny after the first trackday with a smile on your face and a soon to be depleting bank account.
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+1 to everyone get a suspension setup and make sure the tires you have are in good condish
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:48 AM   #9
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+1 to all the above posts.

Call Patrick @ Motorcycles Unlimited (go to Forum Home then scroll to site sponsor).
For around $25 those guys have set up the suspension of many people on here and gotten rave reviews of the difference it made.

You didn't say what kind of front tire you have now but if it is sporting in nature at all it will be fine for your first few TD's.
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+1 ^^^^^ on setting up your suspension. if u choose ridesmart for ur trackday, then get a hold of roger albert. he sets up ur suspension there at the track for 30 somethin bucks. it only takes 15-20 min. his company is called "onroad offroad cycles". i had my suspension set up for my weight and street ridin when i got the bike, but when i started picking up speed on the track that wasn't enough. roger set up my (stock) suspension for the track and the difference was night and day. ridin at a faster pace felt more smooth, when i was braking super hard into a turn it was smoother, the bike felt steady, and most importantly, through a turn my bike felt like it was keeping a "tucked" feeling. so far on the track there's been nothing scarier than being in a full lean around a corner draggin knee and feelin ur front suspension tryin to give out and tuck ur front tire out. it's been my biggest pucker moment since i've been on the track.
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Patrick (or Brandon) at Motorcycles Unlimited is great for setting up the suspension, also Pirelli Corsa tirea are good, but the Bridgestones BT016 is also a very good tire and not too expensive, the BT002 and 003 are much better but prolly way more tire than U need, I run the 016,s on my gixxer 1K and they do just fine, but I am not the fastest guy either, good luck and have fun
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Get your suspension set up, it will ride like an entirely different bike.


I suggest the Bridgestone Battlax BT002 Ride Smart for street/trackdays
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don't worry about the brand of tires you are using for your first track day, just make sure they are in good shape.

and like everyone else said, get your suspension setup it makes a night and day difference.
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Address the suspension, soon...as in before the trackday. It sounds like it is WAY out of wack. Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited does everything for me, and he is local (Houston). I'd have to know what front tire you have to assess that situation, but the Rosso on the rear will do great for your first couple of track ventures. Pressures are important, come see me at the trackday and I'll advise from there.

Rear tire squeeling?? stop using the rear brake, get the bike setup and have some fun.

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Old 06-28-2009, 01:38 PM   #15
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Forget you have a rear brake it is only for when you go offroading.

GO SEE JON AT SCRC OR PATRICK AT Motorcycles Unlimited. can't say it any different.
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Also to all the comments about getting the suspension set up FIRST.
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Old 06-28-2009, 05:27 PM   #17
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Thanks so much for all of the advice. I wanted to respond further to the posts but just got up and have to go to work. Really looking forward to getting the suspension changed. By the way the front tire is the stock Dunlop tire that the bike came with. I believe that it is a sport touring tire.
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Forget you have a rear brake it is only for when you go offroading.

GO SEE JON AT SCRC OR PATRICK AT Motorcycles Unlimited. can't say it any different.
+1......and I'm a BIG fan of the BT-016. Just my .02, they work great at the track AND good mileage on the street if you do a little of both.
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The tires you have are fine for a first track day. There are plenty of people even in the intermediate group still on street rubber. Just make sure that there's significant treadlife left.
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+1 to the suspension the guys name at the track is Roger for onroad / offroad cycles. he did mine and the differance was like nite and day. I you have time go to Motorcycles Unlimited cuz you'll have to be there so the can measure with you on and off the bike. If you dont have time do it at the track camp out and get it done on site. Make sure your tires are in good condition and have proper TRACK air pressure. 30 for front and back should be good. take your time out there and learn. have fun. bring your bike home in one piece. meaning dont go over your head trying to show off and be better than everyone else. dont worry bout draggin knee too. you follow the instuctors and it will happen without you even trying.
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