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Old 06-29-2009, 01:18 AM   #41
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Spies was kicking today. Was a nice race.
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I really hope Haga doesn't miss events because of his crash. Tuff weekend for Ducati fans

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I really hope Haga doesn't miss events because of his crash. Tuff weekend for Ducati fans

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he'll hold quiet as long as those "precious" ducatis are sucking the other bikes fumes!!! Berto can only talk when ducs are on top but, it seems the ducs rule is over for now. Yammi has taken over the dominating position for the year. it's the crank in the motors, it's too intimidating for the ducatis
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Besides massive admiration for Spies the question I kept hearing over the weekend is "why haven't Suzuki (who are nowhere) done more to get Mladin (who fought tooth and nail with Spies for 3 years) onto their bike??
My reconing is that #1 Mladin won't leave the "honey pot" right now, #2 Young is looking like a likely candidate to leave for the WSBK series (remember the "I hope this one follows the other one to Europe..." after a race that Young taunted Mladin the whole race), #3 Unless they bring the AMA mechanics with them I don't think the Suzuki team has the bike to bring in the wins this year...

On other news, I sure hope that Haga's prognosis is correct and he'll be back for the next round- I agree with you Grinchy on the aspect of when the vertebrae was first fractured... and why wasn't it a problem when it happened? Maybe it's a REALLY old injury that has already been healed/ repaired from a year or more ago?

I absolutely LOVED the battles for 2/3/4/5 during the races (both of 'em). I was stoked to see the Brits (and the honorary Brits) up front for the home race.
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Mladin has "Big Fish" syndrome. He won't leave AMA until it completely crumbles beneath him. I really don't think he has the sack to run WSBK, and if he did, he would probably be outside the top ten. It would be GREAT to see him get some of the rough passes he's handed out over the years put right back on him. He's the AMA cherry picker for sure. And now that the talent is leaving AMA, he'll be MR. AMA before too long. Sorry, not a Mladin fan.......
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I think Mladin would do well in WSBK ... but he wont be nearly as liked and respected as Ben. Ben's just such a class act and Mladin ... well ... he's a winner and that's about it.
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I hope he heals up to, because if Ben goes on to win the championship, I don't want all the Haga leg humpers to say Ben only got it because Haga was injured. There's already enough of them that still say Edwards' first SBK championship was because Haga was "robbed." (last time I checked failing a drug test isn't being robbed)

On the Ben side though, he is truly amazing. Everybody was stoked about him being part of the series w/ such great competition. But so far on tracks he's had any prior track time on, he's dominating. Miller was a joke and so was Donnington. Philip Island should have been a double as well. He even doubled at Qatar, w/ no prior track experience.

Also, the only way Mladin would go to WSBK is if he could take about 10 years off his age. He has tried Moto GP and did not do well. He is happy being king of his own mountain.
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Good weekend for Spies. (even better weekend for Yamaha! )

I hate to see Haga go down like that, but you can't deny that's exactly what Spies needed. Haga is tough......he'll be back in it.

As far as the Mladin debate is concerned....for me at least.....he's old news, until he leaves AMA. In my book, he's no longer a relevant racer until he leaves the debacle that is AMA.
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Mladin has "Big Fish" syndrome. He won't leave AMA until it completely crumbles beneath him. I really don't think he has the sack to run WSBK, and if he did, he would probably be outside the top ten. It would be GREAT to see him get some of the rough passes he's handed out over the years put right back on him. He's the AMA cherry picker for sure. And now that the talent is leaving AMA, he'll be MR. AMA before too long. Sorry, not a Mladin fan.......
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Mladin has "Big Fish" syndrome. He won't leave AMA until it completely crumbles beneath him. I really don't think he has the sack to run WSBK, and if he did, he would probably be outside the top ten. It would be GREAT to see him get some of the rough passes he's handed out over the years put right back on him. He's the AMA cherry picker for sure. And now that the talent is leaving AMA, he'll be MR. AMA before too long. Sorry, not a Mladin fan.......

"Big fish" syndrome, or "big paycheck" syndrome? Everything i've seen points to him having to take a paycut to go to WSBK.
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Noriyuki Haga's 2009 World Superbike Championship title hopes are potentially still very much alive after the Ducati Xerox team confirmed his injuries following a crash at Donington Park aren't as serious as first feared.

While a later update at Derby Hospital revealed the originally suspected fractured vertebra was an ailment from another accident, potentially years earlier, further tests have been carried out to confirm the extent of his injuries.

Currently, Haga will only need to undergo surgery to insert a plate and screws into his forearm following a fracture to the right ulna. He will also be inspected for a pain in his shoulder, although x-rays have ruled out any serious damage.

With Haga set to return home to Italy within two days, attention is now focused on the injured forearm, which the Ducati Xerox team hope will heal in time for him to return to competition for the next World Superbike round at Brno in a month's time.

The news is particularly good for Haga's title hopes after Ben Spies reduced the deficit to 14 points following his double victory at Donington Park. He now has until July 26th to get fit in time to resume his spot on the 1198.

The Japanese rider is renowned for his ability to race on through pain, most notably last season when he shrugged off a broken collarbone to win both races at the Nurburgring just two weeks later.
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My reconing is that #1 Mladin won't leave the "honey pot" right now, #2 Young is looking like a likely candidate to leave for the WSBK series (remember the "I hope this one follows the other one to Europe..." after a race that Young taunted Mladin the whole race), #3 Unless they bring the AMA mechanics with them I don't think the Suzuki team has the bike to bring in the wins this year...

On other news, I sure hope that Haga's prognosis is correct and he'll be back for the next round- I agree with you Grinchy on the aspect of when the vertebrae was first fractured... and why wasn't it a problem when it happened? Maybe it's a REALLY old injury that has already been healed/ repaired from a year or more ago?

I absolutely LOVED the battles for 2/3/4/5 during the races (both of 'em). I was stoked to see the Brits (and the honorary Brits) up front for the home race.
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Jonathan Rea blamed set-up woes for his struggles during the British round of the World Superbike Championship at Donington Park.

Arriving at his home race eager to continue his momentum following a maiden World Superbike victory just a week earlier in Misano, Rea was put on the back foot from the word go following a crash during free practice.

Going on to qualify in 12th position, Rea made solid progress through the opening race, but was finding it hard to find speed in the tricky final section of the lap.

Eventually finishing seventh in that race, Rea's hopes of a better result in the second were ruined on the second lap when he fell at Goddards. A disappointing end to a tough weekend, Rea is now looking forward to the mid-season tests where he is hoping to continue improving his Ten Kate Honda.

“I knew we were going to struggle here, but I didn't think it would be this hard. Donington is a very difficult place to find the right set up because you have the fast-flowing first section and then a series of first-gear corners at the end of the lap. We changed quite a bit after the first race – the rear linkage and some other things.

“The bike was very different to ride but I was still struggling in the last sector where I've been having problems all weekend. And that's where I crashed – off the brake, off the throttle, and just lost the front. I picked it up and collected a point, which could be important at the end of the season.

“We'll aim to find a good base setting for this new suspension when we test at Imola in a couple of weeks, and take the rest of the season from there.”
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he'll hold quiet as long as those "precious" ducatis are sucking the other bikes fumes!!! Berto can only talk when ducs are on top but, it seems the ducs rule is over for now. Yammi has taken over the dominating position for the year. it's the crank in the motors, it's too intimidating for the ducatis
For being so tiny you sure talk a lot of CRAPPPPP. Go ducs, we take what we can get. War is not over yet.

I've been very busy lately so i spend like 5 minutes on the net. Is pretty hot out there. Getting in shape here, spending from 7 am to 4 pm in the freaking sun with no shade. Endurance racing here i come.
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For being so tiny you sure talk a lot of CRAPPPPP. Go ducs, we take what we can get. War is not over yet.

I've been very busy lately so i spend like 5 minutes on the net. Is pretty hot out there. Getting in shape here, spending from 7 am to 4 pm in the freaking sun with no shade. Endurance racing here i come.
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i bet if stoner or haga would have won a race this weekend you would have been on here all day and this thread would be up to 5 pages of your ducati nonsense. LOL
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Just finished wathing the SS race. not as thrilling as the last few, but was good to see the bikes that made the podium. Yami , Kawi, Triumph.

Also in the SBK races what's the deal with running out of gas...seems like they are probably all pretty close on fumes at the end. I wonder how much tuning they have to do to lean the bikes out enough to make the distance.
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Besides massive admiration for Spies the question I kept hearing over the weekend is "why haven't Suzuki (who are nowhere) done more to get Mladin (who fought tooth and nail with Spies for 3 years) onto their bike??
That is THE question of the day, doesnt appear there is anyone who can regularly contend with him other than Mladin.
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Just finished wathing the SS race. not as thrilling as the last few, but was good to see the bikes that made the podium. Yami , Kawi, Triumph.

Also in the SBK races what's the deal with running out of gas...seems like they are probably all pretty close on fumes at the end. I wonder how much tuning they have to do to lean the bikes out enough to make the distance.
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