Welcome back to us :/ Our hosts data center was down for the entire day.
MotoHouston.com MotoHouston.com
Register Members List Member Map Media Calendar Garage Forum Home Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MotoHouston.com > Safety Corner > Safety Corner Main
Forgot info?

Welcome to MotoHouston.com! You are currently viewing our forums as a guest which gives you limited access to the community. By joining our free community you will have access to great discounts from our sponsors, the ability to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content, free email, classifieds, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, join our community!

Register Today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.


Like us on Facebook! Regular shirt GIVEAWAYS and more

Advertisement

Reply
Share This Thread: 
Subscribe to this Thread Thread Tools
Old 06-24-2009, 12:57 PM   #1
Navajib
Senior Member
 
Navajib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Land O'Pears
Feedback Rating: (4)
Posts: 3,246

Experience: 9 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
Moto-in-a-Box (CRF450R Motard)
Some Dirties
WTB: Adv Moto!







Knee Braces

Anyone where knee braces (as opposed to knee pads)? I've always had a fear of a violent crash and my knees being fckd up. I've already had ACL reconstruction, so I know what it's like to have a fckd up knee. Either it be street riding, mx, or even something like snowboarding.

Any opinions of those currently using them?

Ex:
0 9 327216f4 98f2 43a0 a04b 12cdc69deda5
__________________

Navajib is offline   Reply With Quote
Similar Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anyone here uses posture aids/braces? hotcknstrips Off Topic 12 07-02-2012 07:50 AM
Invisalign Braces ?? lanzer913 Off Topic 6 03-12-2012 02:24 PM
Infiniti drivers with back braces... kibitzer Off Topic 22 08-03-2010 06:01 PM
Neck braces on race tracks bumblebee Taking it to the Track 17 11-21-2009 10:11 AM
neck braces? logan5 Taking it to the Track 23 12-09-2008 06:11 PM
Advertisement
Old 06-24-2009, 01:08 PM   #2
Pachuco
So fly, I need feathers
 
Pachuco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston (Proper)
Feedback Rating: (6)
Posts: 3,823

Experience: 6 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
1098s
S4RS
SC1000
999s
996 sps

Member Garage





Send a message via Yahoo to Pachuco
who makes those, I were the icons, but those look like would be better
__________________
Stuntin like Jet Li, boat houses and jet ski's
Pachuco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 01:09 PM   #3
tonyt915
"Fuckchix"
 
tonyt915's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Pearland
Feedback Rating: (19)
Posts: 9,248

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 3

Bike(s):
08 Duc Duc Goose Superbike"sold"
08 CBR 6RR " sold"
84 Yamaha Big Wheel 200
76 HD FXE "sold
09 WR450F "sold"

Member Garage


I wear the evs vision braces, I don't have any problems when riding and they are comfortable. I have read that If you have a bad crash there a good chance you will break your femur, which is the largest bone because the brace prevents your knee from breaking. I would much rather break my femur and deal with the pain till it heals than break my knee and suffer from it for the rest of my life.
__________________
HELP ME! I'M BUYING GUNS AND CAN'T STOP!
dinosaur
tonyt915 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 01:22 PM   #4
Navajib
Senior Member
 
Navajib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Land O'Pears
Feedback Rating: (4)
Posts: 3,246

Experience: 9 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
Moto-in-a-Box (CRF450R Motard)
Some Dirties
WTB: Adv Moto!







Quote:
Originally Posted by Pachuco View Post
who makes those, I were the icons, but those look like would be better
http://www.asterisk.com/
The pictured brace is the cell @ $599 per pair, and another style from the same brand is the germ which is $349 per pair. There are certainly other brands that aren't as expensive. Prevention cost is key here. I'd rather pay $350 instead of a medical deductible.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyt915 View Post
I wear the evs vision braces, I don't have any problems when riding and they are comfortable. I have read that If you have a bad crash there a good chance you will break your femur, which is the largest bone because the brace prevents your knee from breaking. I would much rather break my femur and deal with the pain till it heals than break my knee and suffer from it for the rest of my life.
Likewise. I'd rather break a bone instead of damaging cartilage or ligaments.
__________________

Navajib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 01:37 PM   #5
gunshotwound
You have been warned!
 
gunshotwound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bullard, TX
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 5,540

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
YAMAHA R6
YAMAHA FZ6



Member Garage





I sort of like the idea, but, man......I just can't see them being comfortable.
__________________


CMRA #106
gunshotwound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 02:37 PM   #6
C.Hern5972
Street Ninja Four Father
 
C.Hern5972's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Pearland Tx
Feedback Rating: (5)
Posts: 14,729

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
96 ZX7R 37k miles and still strong
2007 HD Softail
2002 Springer Classic
2007 GSXR600

Member Garage


This is what i used to wear. I still have them both for the right and left knee. A little price but they are good BRACES. They are not knee/shin guards.






Attachment 24669
__________________
chern

Chris H
"I dont follow rules to well"
C.Hern5972 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 02:44 PM   #7
Navajib
Senior Member
 
Navajib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Land O'Pears
Feedback Rating: (4)
Posts: 3,246

Experience: 9 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
Moto-in-a-Box (CRF450R Motard)
Some Dirties
WTB: Adv Moto!







^That's very similar to mine. Is that a Don Joy? Cuz that's exactly what I have.
__________________

Navajib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 06:02 PM   #8
C.Hern5972
Street Ninja Four Father
 
C.Hern5972's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Pearland Tx
Feedback Rating: (5)
Posts: 14,729

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
96 ZX7R 37k miles and still strong
2007 HD Softail
2002 Springer Classic
2007 GSXR600

Member Garage


Yes it is. It has the neoprene liner you can either wear or take off and wear alone like shown in pic.
__________________
chern

Chris H
"I dont follow rules to well"
C.Hern5972 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 06:34 PM   #9
CaligoneTx
Forest Gnome Tour Guide
 
CaligoneTx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Valhalla
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 21,558

Experience: 10+ years

Bike(s):
Triumph 675r
Ducati 748
Hyosungs (250r + 650r)
Honda 900rr
Suzuki Busa1300r (+2 bikes)






Send a message via AIM to CaligoneTx Send a message via Yahoo to CaligoneTx
Bracing is not easy to wear when on a bike.

I tried in Cali when I had right knee issues.

Im down to my usual left ankle braces now but I cant wear them w boots so I wrap.

The knee pads are pretty rigid but do allow alot more movement then hinged braces. I personally am not concerned w hyperextension when it comes to an accident, more the initial hit which the padding would absorb or reflect.
__________________
triumphsig
CaligoneTx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 07:51 PM   #10
Navajib
Senior Member
 
Navajib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Land O'Pears
Feedback Rating: (4)
Posts: 3,246

Experience: 9 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
Moto-in-a-Box (CRF450R Motard)
Some Dirties
WTB: Adv Moto!







^I think of just rolling and rolling and having my legs be swinging all over the place. The most common injuries in mx are the knee (ACL), the shoulder, and the wrists (aside from an overall concussion). I've learned to tuck my arms in such violent crashes, but knee abrasions/injuries are what I'm trying to prevent -- to a degree.

I guess I have to find out if I can be comfortable enough to ride on the street w them.

Thanks for the input guys.
__________________

Navajib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 07:55 PM   #11
DNGRMOUSE
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Noorf East side, Hillbilly , In the Dog house normally
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 2,319

Experience: 9-12 months

Bike(s):
'97 Honda VFR 750
'09 Buell Firebolt Xb12R
Fatboy
Tricycle
pocket rocket






User is banned

.
DNGRMOUSE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 08:08 PM   #12
Patrick
Motorcycles Unlimited
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Houston
Feedback Rating: (2)
Posts: 16,368

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
'14 Speed Triple R, '82 CB900F, '13 Streetglide






I've had a couple of knee surgeries, part of the price one pays after falling off as many racebikes as I have through the years.
I've tried the brace route, but never got completely comfortable riding with them.
Plus, my othopedist tells me they can do more harm than good.
I wore homemade knee pads the last few years I road raced, using soccer shin / knee guards as a base, and they worked quite well in my crash testing.

Nowadays I wear the Alpinestsr Reflex pads and have seen numerous people crash test them and they did well. Can't ask for much more for less than $25.00.
As far as Icon, IMO they're junk.
__________________
Call or PM for the BEST PRICES in Houston for PARTS and ACCESSORIES.
MAKE SURE TO MENTION YOU'RE ON MH TO GET THE BEST PRICE!

NEED GEAR? We have a great selection in stock but if we need to order it we GUARANTEE FIT!
Where Houston riders go to have their bikes worked on, done right the first time!


muad

1964 FM 1960 West
Houston, TX 77090
Hours: Tues.-Fri. 9:30-6:00 Sat. 9-5:30
www.motorcycles-unlimited.com
http://www.facebook.com/motorcyclesunlimited
e-mail: patrick@motorcycles-unlimited.com
Patrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 11:11 PM   #13
mrclean
Squid Pro Quo
 
mrclean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 752

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 3

Bike(s):
Honda XL 600
Blackbird
RC51
1000RR
CB 350






I wear the alpinestars knee/shin pads also.

Comfortable and good knee protection for my bad left knee.

I hate riding without them, just get the extra long Astars socks also!
mrclean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 11:49 PM   #14
v4lu3s
Senior Member
 
v4lu3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Conroe
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 4,381

Experience: 4 years

Bike(s):
2003 CBR 600 F4i -- Sold




Member Garage


a femur break can kill you while a knee injury is far more likely to leave you alive. I will stick with knee/shin guards and leave the knee braces for basket ball or running trails.
v4lu3s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2009, 11:51 PM   #15
Shinyman
Senior Member
 
Shinyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Kingwood
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 1,406

Experience: 3 years
Trackdays: 1

Bike(s):
06 CBR1000rr with some repsol fairings
07 Buell XB9R (totaled)








femur breaking its no joke, that its loud and painful. Also don't see you femur healing that quickly.
Shinyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2009, 12:48 AM   #16
spring r1
Senior Member
 
spring r1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: spring
Feedback Rating: (2)
Posts: 1,012

Experience: 1-3 months
Trackdays: 2

Bike(s):
07 r1
04gsxr600 track
ttr90







Quote:
Originally Posted by Navajib View Post
http://www.asterisk.com/
The pictured brace is the cell @ $599 per pair, and another style from the same brand is the germ which is $349 per pair. There are certainly other brands that aren't as expensive. Prevention cost is key here. I'd rather pay $350 instead of a medical deductible.



Likewise. I'd rather break a bone instead of damaging cartilage or ligaments.
i wear knee pads but i didnt know they even made anything like this good post man.........i have messed up knees i have had 4 knee surgeries the last was torn acl and mcl......ortho said the next time its knee replacement........ 599.00 not much if u consider being off work for 6 months and medical bills
__________________
hold my beer and watch this.............
spring r1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2009, 01:42 AM   #17
bentgixxer
Senior Member
 
bentgixxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Seabrook
Feedback Rating: (2)
Posts: 5,894

Experience: 3 years

Bike(s):
I has no bike :(
'14 Polaris 550 touring








Send a message via Yahoo to bentgixxer
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyt915 View Post
I wear the evs vision braces, I don't have any problems when riding and they are comfortable. I have read that If you have a bad crash there a good chance you will break your femur, which is the largest bone because the brace prevents your knee from breaking. I would much rather break my femur and deal with the pain till it heals than break my knee and suffer from it for the rest of my life.
id rather blow a knee out 10 times over than break a femur. depending on the break, it could snag the femoral artery and you bleed to death within minutes ( faster than help can get to you, especially riding back roads ) then, if you dont die, you will most likely be getting a rod in your leg, and have a 6 month-ish no doing anything recoup time.


femurs are bad news.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Helios View Post
We need a subforum for bentgixxer's threads alone.
We'll call it Corpsefish and Horsenuts.
bentgixxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2009, 06:23 PM   #18
Navajib
Senior Member
 
Navajib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Land O'Pears
Feedback Rating: (4)
Posts: 3,246

Experience: 9 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
Moto-in-a-Box (CRF450R Motard)
Some Dirties
WTB: Adv Moto!







I have done more research about knee braces/protection. Maybe I should reconsider and reavaluate my choices.

Taken from 'DrMark' on Thumpertalk:
Quote:
A knee ligament injury doesnt have an identifiable death rate.
A femur fracture doesn have an identifiable death rate. Its called Fat Embolism.
A small death rate from what I've gathered. I've read <1%.

Quote:
Right now there is no unbiased scientific argument for or against knee braces in motosports. The[re] is only anecdotal stories pro and con from [riders] who race bikes, and claims by manufacturers.
Quote:
Most femur fxs I see in MX occurred at the top of the knee brace when the leg hyperextended
Quote:
Any long bone fracture in the lower extremity is worse than a knee ligament injury. I think that having a knee joint, which is a naturally occurring break in the lower extemity, is a natural defense against long bone fractures which would be fatal in a caveman. A caveman wouldn't even blink if his ACL was torn.
There is a study conducted by an orthopedic surgeon (who is actually from Houston and is 'DrMark' on Thumpertalk) for the last few months about braced and unbraced riders, but I have yet to find the results. (http://www.sandersclinic.net/) Is he/the clinic well known around here?

It's personal choice to wear a knee brace. And it's his or her risk assessment. A knee brace increases the risk of a femur fracture. As stated in earlier posts, a femur break is no joke. The 3 popsickle sticks experiment sheds light upon this. (http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/sho...56&postcount=8) A brace is designed to protect the knee, but consequently, the energy has to go somewhere; thus, concentrating the force on the bones instead.

So, concerning a knee brace: do you want a major injury (long bone fracture) or by comparison, a minor injury(knee injury)? I have yet to come to my opinion without more research, but I have always believed in strengthing the body to prevent injury. Anyways, I found some more info.
__________________

Navajib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2009, 02:39 PM   #19
houtex
Hit'n the track pipe
 
houtex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 1,088

Experience: 1-3 months











Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
I've had a couple of knee surgeries, part of the price one pays after falling off as many racebikes as I have through the years.
I've tried the brace route, but never got completely comfortable riding with them.
Plus, my othopedist tells me they can do more harm than good.
I wore homemade knee pads the last few years I road raced, using soccer shin / knee guards as a base, and they worked quite well in my crash testing.

Nowadays I wear the Alpinestsr Reflex pads and have seen numerous people crash test them and they did well. Can't ask for much more for less than $25.00.
As far as Icon, IMO they're junk.
I bought the Alpinestar knee pads from Motorcycles Unlimited and unfortunately tested them 2 weeks ago in a low side where I endo'd the bike when the frame slider met the grass/pavement line and i walked away with torn jeans. The rider in front of me who high sided was not wearing knee pads and had to get stitches in his left knee. Well worth the $25 investment!
__________________
Joe

laguna sig
houtex is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Advertisement


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:24 PM.


MotoHouston.com is not responsible for the content posted by users.
Privacy Policy