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Old 06-23-2009, 11:34 AM   #1
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Can anyone tell me what's the optimal RAKE and TRAIL setting? I know when you change tire brand or model, some people will adjust either the front or rear or both to compensate for the tire's height and profile because they affect the handling (rake and trail). And how about taking a good setup bike from a pro and measure them? I also know Attack and Yoshimura have adjustable triple tree for this purpose.
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Can anyone tell me what's the optimal RAKE and TRAIL setting? I know when you change tire brand or model, some people will adjust either the front or rear or both to compensate for the tire's height and profile because they affect the handling (rake and trail). And how about taking a good setup bike from a pro and measure them? I also know Attack and Yoshimura have adjustable triple tree for this purpose.
Depends on bike (and rider to an extent).
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Depends on bike (and rider to an extent).
Depends on the bike, rider, TIRES and track too.

Once you start getting in to adjustable triple clamps, you're beyond the realm of a regular racer/ trackday dude. I seriously doubt anyone on this board can benefit from adjustments with rake/ trail other than the stock settings.
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Dont you impact rake and trail when you raise or lower your rear shock or forks? Pretty common with GSXR's..
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Dont you impact rake and trail when you raise or lower your rear shock or forks? Pretty common with GSXR's..
Your right, ride height changes affect the geometry. It's one way to make changes to geometry on bikes that don't have adjustments.
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Can anyone tell me what's the optimal RAKE and TRAIL setting? I know when you change tire brand or model, some people will adjust either the front or rear or both to compensate for the tire's height and profile because they affect the handling (rake and trail). And how about taking a good setup bike from a pro and measure them? I also know Attack and Yoshimura have adjustable triple tree for this purpose.
Optimal is subjective to what the rider wants out of the bike. What don't you like about the handling of your bike now?
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i'm just forwarding this from another forum....this is not the end all solution to your problem. i don't even know who made this or wrote this....don't even know if it's accurate or not....but it's a good start from how i see it.
Thanks for the post, looks like good stuff. Information like this can take perceived magic out of it and turn it into an easy scientific approach. It can be simple if you just follow the rules. That is what the experts are doing, they have their rules they live by and then there is some soft science mixed in. IMO.
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Dont you impact rake and trail when you raise or lower your rear shock or forks? Pretty common with GSXR's..
Yup, but the question I was addressing was about adjustable geometry with triple clamps, not the simple raising/ lowering of front or rear suspension.
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