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Old 06-24-2009, 03:59 PM   #141
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^^^ that is no reason to not do a track day. Everyone has their opinions on which is best just like the whole Honda, Suki and Kawi debate.

if you were to look at it from a 'non trackday rider' then it makes since... the 'crowd' that does trackdays are never civil in there 'comparisons'... i'll just stick to hanging out with stunt riders cause no one cares who you ride with and there is never any drama in threads




when you ask a sincere question... and it turns to a discussion of this magnitude... you have to analyze the whole picture
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it all appears to "cliquish" to me...

I'll just stick to popping wheelies in a parking lot with a lot of other riders who don't care what "stunt team" is at the parking lot with them... and riding casually on the streets...


i couldn't justify the money spent on a trackday just so that a couple months later I could join into the argument as to which one is "better" or not....


pretty sad in my oppinion


are you serious? I can't say the first time I did a trackday I was like, "Hmmm, which cool group should I roll with?"

and for the record, my first td was with Buck Beasley and gang....BY FAR the best track experience with the least amount of BS to go along with it right there...
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wow,8 pages....a lot of reading but i have same wonderring as Joe and i have another question that : how many sestions that instructor will be mantorring / instruct novice riders ( like me for example) ? do i have to pay extra for these instructors for extra times they instructing me ? thank you all
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if you were to look at it from a 'non trackday rider' then it makes since... the 'crowd' that does trackdays are never civil in there 'comparisons'... i'll just stick to hanging out with stunt riders cause no one cares who you ride with and there is never any drama in threads




when you ask a sincere question... and it turns to a discussion of this magnitude... you have to analyze the whole picture
As much as I don't want to - I gotta agree with Tree. If you look back from the start - we had different organizations instructors enforcing their organization as the best....

It sorta started a mini war...

Its sad all these instructors are doing it with the best intentions, but come out looking like hats or giving a bad impression to the "New/upcoming track day guy".

I gotta agree with Tree. I think it should be left alone and let the person decide what his schedule fits...
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wow,8 pages....a lot of reading but i have same wonderring as Joe and i have another question that : how many sestions that instructor will be mantorring / instruct novice riders ( like me for example) ? do i have to pay extra for these instructors for extra times they instructing me ? thank you all
i can't say that you'll get 1 on 1 without paying more, but most all schools have a small ratio, whether 3:1, 5:1, etc for the novice group. The key to learning at a trackday is to speak up....find an instructor and start asking questions...seriously.
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As much as I don't want to - I gotta agree with Tree. If you look back from the start - we had different organizations instructors enforcing their organization as the best....

It sorta started a mini war...

Its sad all these instructors are doing it with the best intentions, but come out looking like hats or giving a bad impression to the "New/upcoming track day guy".

I gotta agree with Tree. I think it should be left alone and let the person decide what his schedule fits...
says a reformed Ride Smart instructor who did the same thing for months
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I would like to try one of these track days I hear you all talk about. For a beginner like myself what trackday org should I go with?
Ive done Ride Smart, TDD and LSTD; they're all good, but LSTD has my vote
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are you serious? I can't say the first time I did a trackday I was like, "Hmmm, which cool group should I roll with?"

and for the record, my first td was with Buck Beasley and gang....BY FAR the best track experience with the least amount of BS to go along with it right there...
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this is kind of why I would never do a track day...


just reading through 8 pages of arguing for someone that was hoping to get some insite on trying something new...

"go to the one that fits your schedule"..... understandable, I doubt Joe or anyone else would pick the one he couldn't go to because of his schedule... so that made no productivity in the matter...



it all appears to "cliquish" to me...

I'll just stick to popping wheelies in a parking lot with a lot of other riders who don't care what "stunt team" is at the parking lot with them... and riding casually on the streets...


i couldn't justify the money spent on a trackday just so that a couple months later I could join into the argument as to which one is "better" or not....



pretty sad in my oppinion

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if you were to look at it from a 'non trackday rider' then it makes since... the 'crowd' that does trackdays are never civil in there 'comparisons'... i'll just stick to hanging out with stunt riders cause no one cares who you ride with and there is never any drama in threads




when you ask a sincere question... and it turns to a discussion of this magnitude... you have to analyze the whole picture
+1

i cant spend $400 on one day of riding, two track days a month = 1 new ttr 50 for me

I do wanna to go ride at gss on my motard but that day is far from me....and ya your right about stunt riding and it's what i like about it..it doesn't really matter who you are, or what 'team' you are...if you got the skills to pay the bills come chill with us and ride.

we don't sit back and argue all the time of nonsense and say that asi is better wait no cici's in alvin is better or fsck that! ranken is the

most 'track heads' and 'racers' are to hot headed for me. everyone on that side of the fences seems to be the best of the best. stunt riding you know where you stand and it's seems way more positive, esp when you drop/wreck...

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if you were to look at it from a 'non trackday rider' then it makes since... the 'crowd' that does trackdays are never civil in there 'comparisons'... i'll just stick to hanging out with stunt riders cause no one cares who you ride with and there is never any drama in threads




when you ask a sincere question... and it turns to a discussion of this magnitude... you have to analyze the whole picture
I've ridden with all the orgs and worked with most of them as well. They all serve a purpose and help people become better riders. Unfortunately all of them seem to cause pointless drama. Just pick one, go ride, learn, and have fun. a being part of a click be part of a community instead.
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Yep. And I quit doing it... I seen the light

I saw it from a "new guy" point of view - and it really looked bad. Hence I decided to do what I thought was right and respectfully pull out. I'd rather promote Track Days - not RideSmart or LSTD or TTD.

So that's what I do now... heck this past weekend I attend a Saturday (Ride Smart) day and Sunday (LSTD) day. Let me tell you - I had a blast!

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i can't say that you'll get 1 on 1 without paying more, but most all schools have a small ratio, whether 3:1, 5:1, etc for the novice group. The key to learning at a trackday is to speak up....find an instructor and start asking questions...seriously.
thanks Dbuck ! i look forward to track day when
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I've ridden with all the orgs and worked with most of them as well. They all serve a purpose and help people become better riders. Unfortunately all of them seem to cause pointless drama. Just pick one, go ride, learn, and have fun. a being part of a click be part of a community instead.
and I fully agree with the concept that doing a track day 'could' make you a much better rider...

(my oppinion follows)

everyone appears arrogant once they have ridden a few track days... in all honesty, I don't care how fast I can ride through a curve or if I find the apex properly or if my head is in the right position...

it's just not for me I guess...

but I respect the skill... don't get me wrong
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Yep. And I quit doing it... I seen the light

I saw it from a "new guy" point of view - and it really looked bad. Hence I decided to do what I thought was right and respectfully pull out. I'd rather promote Track Days - not RideSmart or LSTD or TTD.

So that's what I do now... heck this past weekend I attend a Saturday (Ride Smart) day and Sunday (LSTD) day. Let me tell you - I had a blast!

I don't want kids either .... then I'd have to share my 50
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I don't want kids either .... then I'd have to share my 50
lmao i cant wait till my son turns 4...then he CAN have my 50....just an excuse to by myself a ttr 50..those bikes are way better then the honda
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and I fully agree with the concept that doing a track day 'could' make you a much better rider...

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everyone appears arrogant once they have ridden a few track days... in all honesty, I don't care how fast I can ride through a curve or if I find the apex properly or if my head is in the right position...

it's just not for me I guess...

but I respect the skill... don't get me wrong
The big head is natural after a few days .....but once you get pinked by a really fast hit it goes away. Just the nature of tne beast.
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lmao i cant wait till my son turns 4...then he CAN have my 50....just an excuse to by myself a ttr 50..those bikes are way better then the honda
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is there a track we can race the 50's on?? like a go cart track? that would be pretty sweet...

think Houston Grand Prix on 59 would let us use their track...
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is there a track we can race the 50's on?? like a go cart track? that would be pretty sweet...

think Houston Grand Prix on 59 would let us use their track...
i rode tony's (house of pain) man it's smoother and brakes work 4x better im jealous.

and stock 50 races are awesome
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Dang guys, this is the internet after all. If you're judging a group of folks based off a bbs then you're looking at the wrong reasons for going anyway.

Ask anyone who's done their first track day with any org- the folks you meet at the track are like no other group of folks. 99.9% of them take you in as family and will bend over backwards to help you out.

How many strangers that are stunters or folks at pp1 are going to offer to let you ride/ stunt their bike after you crashed yours? After ~25 years of doing this, I can tell you from personal experience it ain't any of those places, but it happens at the track all the time; I've seen it!

If you want to do a track day, pick one and go. Yeah, some of us have our loyalties; I also prefer a nice on a woman sooner than her It is what it is.
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is there a track we can race the 50's on?? like a go cart track? that would be pretty sweet...

think Houston Grand Prix on 59 would let us use their track...
The Katy track...

Lets see if your stunters can actually make your fiddies turn as quick as you wheel

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