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Old 06-22-2009, 05:43 PM   #41
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I'm slo, but I vote suspension/geometry. Can't imagine Dilly skimpin on skinz.
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I'm slo, but I vote suspension/geometry. i Can imagine Dilly skimpin on skinz.
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:13 PM   #43
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:13 PM   #44
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not skimpin to some...is skimpin to others.

And DC...I usually only do 2 on a rear. I forgot Cresson was a back to back.

I just try to ride these things...I dont act like I know anything.

Seriously.
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:16 PM   #45
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it could be the tires. john told me after to much heat the tires could get squermish even race tires. its been real hot lately plus you have 3tds on them
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:16 AM   #46
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Bike's perfect or not. You'll need to learn to ride through it as you pick up speed. Track,,,conditions,,,tire-wear,,pressures,,corner camber,,,the list goes on. Thats what I was told by some old f*cker.. I'm pretty sure he knows his sh*t..too.
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Having thought about it, I thought it was 2nd day on tires but i ran a back to back at cresson so this was the third.
I think you answered your own question.
3 track days on a set of tires, especially after 2 days at Cresson which hard on tires, combined with the heat that we've been having is more than likely the main cause of your spinning issue.
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I think you answered your own question.
3 track days on a set of tires, especially after 2 days at Cresson which hard on tires, combined with the heat that we've been having is more than likely the main cause of your spinning issue.
yea...you are probably right...also considering both MSRC (ccw) and TWS (Texas World Speedway) are hard on the left side.

But I was getting a little spin on the first day with the hard compounds, on the 3.1. But only in 1 particular turn..uphil, off camber tight left...on the 1.3.

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Old 10-02-2009, 11:44 PM   #49
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Rear suspention is way out. Ever hear of riders looking for more grip?? This is what they are talking about. I would venture to guess you're too stiff in the rear and the bike can't "squat" for better rear traction. Too stiff and the bike will either wheelie often or break the rear loose. Like R & T said, more swingarm angle. (ie: ride height or rear preload)

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what up Brandt. There are a lot of factors that play into when and where you get rear wheel spin. Yes you may need a new tire or pressure adjustment. Yes you may need some suspension tuning or tweaking, but fact of the matter is, none of the above will get rid of it completely once you get to a certain pace.

The biggest issue with rear wheel spin for most riders as they start to experience it, is the loss of time on your over all lap time from being freaked out or you crash ie(highside). By freaked out I mean the little thought in the back of your mind when you are coming off the next turn thinking, is my tire bad, was that something on the track, am I about to crash ect ect. These are all mental things that take your focus off of what you should be focusing on. Riding.

Understand that there is a BIG difference between breaking the tire loose for a split second and rear tire spin. This I learned myself as I got faster, and by following guys like Ty and Dane, and a few others that have really good bike control.

When I experience it this is what I do. As the tire starts to spin I decrease lean angle and go neutral throttle at the same time. Meaning I stop accelerating but I DO NOT cut the throttle off completely. I then process what is going on with the bike. If I feel that I can accelerate more, I then apply throttle and adjust body position and lean angle to help the motorcycle finish the corner and come off of it with as much drive as possible (the tire may be spinning the whole time this is happening) Again I want to not loose as much time as possible, and if possible gain time.

It takes a lot of time to develop the skills that you are going to need to take your riding to the next level. Most important is that it takes track time. Being able to get yourself into these situations and getting comfortable with them.

Understand that there are probably a thousand ways to handle the problem you are dealing with. What I have giving you is just an example of what works for me. Good Luck

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On another note check your suspension. I have been fighting mine all year tring to get it right. Getting faster and you will start having to turn knobs on your suspension alot more. Also how old is the rear shock? Has it been serviced yet? There could be 1000 reansons your sliding.
Searching threads on race tires, I found this thread very useful and informative. I was experiencing quite a bit of rear wheel spin when trying to ride at a decent pace and all these points mentioned make perfect sense to me now. Tire was probably worn out, lean angle should have been reduced, suspension feels stiff on the compression side, not allowing the bike to squat to gain traction, and it hasn't been serviced yet.

Also weighting the outside peg during corner exit, while starting to roll more and more throttle helped me gain some traction. Guess that reduces lean angle as well in the process.

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I think you answered your own question.
3 track days on a set of tires, especially after 2 days at Cresson which hard on tires, combined with the heat that we've been having is more than likely the main cause of your spinning issue.
Thought I would bump this in case someone was looking for some info on rear wheel spin.
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