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Old 06-22-2009, 04:25 PM   #21
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yes, good thread.

i would also agree that if you're spinning the back tire...you have reached the max handling ability of that particular bike, on those particular tires, with that particular suspension, with your particular skills, in that particular turn at that particular speen and in that particular weather...in reality there are most likely a trillion different scenarios that can be put to test.


maybe it's cuz you're running the 750 now Brandt...go back to a 600?
nah...I love the 750. and I am waaaaaaaaay faster on it.
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:27 PM   #22
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CDILL is an instigator. LOL I am not in your sub list so I won't comment, but I have my ears open and my own opinion
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nah...I love the 750. and I am waaaaaaaaay faster on it.
yea, i need to get my on a 750 instead of dicking around with these 600's. fabian's stock 05-06' 600rr pulled me on the front straight when i outdrove him out of the chicane onto the banking.
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I fogot that you are a racer now and dont do it just for giggles. I would have a blast just smoking the tires as far as I could.
My last time out it was just baby slides and it just stepped out a little.
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:49 PM   #25
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yes, good thread.

i would also agree that if you're spinning the back tire...you have reached the max handling ability of that particular bike, on those particular tires, with that particular suspension, with your particular skills, in that particular turn at that particular speen and in that particular weather...in reality there are most likely a trillion different scenarios that can be put to test.


maybe it's cuz you're running the 750 now Brandt...go back to a 600?
So you're saying it's not one thing in particular? (....sorry, couldn't help it).

Great thread! Carry on.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:10 PM   #28
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Lol

Not an instigator and far fram a "racer".

I just knew how to keep from spinning the rear until I hit those times. Now I need help!
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:10 PM   #29
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nah...I love the 750. and I am waaaaaaaaay faster on it.
ya, i'd imagine...i was just trying to keep it fair
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ok dude if your spinning it up coming out of a corner and your tire is not worn the **** out then you are not riding correctly. running 52-53s at world on the sv i am not spinning tires, running 48s 49s on the 750 i am not spinning the tires. your problem is how you ride, unless your tires are . you might change that as well. if yall want some info hit me up
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Try putting more swingarm angle on it 1st.
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Fresh sticky Dunlops and im doing wheelies while driving out, worn out tires will not work well when trying to run the lap times your running. Its just a part of the game. Ive gotten good at sliding the rear from riding Pirellis down to slicks on the sides.
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Rear suspention is way out. Ever hear of riders looking for more grip?? This is what they are talking about. I would venture to guess you're too stiff in the rear and the bike can't "squat" for better rear traction. Too stiff and the bike will either wheelie often or break the rear loose. Like R & T said, more swingarm angle. (ie: ride height or rear preload)
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ok dude if your spinning it up coming out of a corner and your tire is not worn the **** out then you are not riding correctly. running 52-53s at world on the sv i am not spinning tires, running 48s 49s on the 750 i am not spinning the tires. your problem is how you ride, unless your tires are . you might change that as well. if yall want some info hit me up
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Teach me to ride, Im new to this whole track thing mr. romeo.
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I dont think cdills tires are worn out. suspension maybe.....
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Having thought about it, I thought it was 2nd day on tires but i ran a back to back at cresson so this was the third.

Maybe combination of wore out tire and still need more suspension tuning.

Plus Im a fat ...but I thought that would help me stick.
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Having thought about it, I thought it was 2nd day on tires but i ran a back to back at cresson so this was the third.

Maybe combination of wore out tire and still need more suspension tuning.

Plus Im a fat ...but I thought that would help me stick.
i didnt know you put 3 td's on a set.
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what up Brandt. There are a lot of factors that play into when and where you get rear wheel spin. Yes you may need a new tire or pressure adjustment. Yes you may need some suspension tuning or tweaking, but fact of the matter is, none of the above will get rid of it completely once you get to a certain pace.

The biggest issue with rear wheel spin for most riders as they start to experience it, is the loss of time on your over all lap time from being freaked out or you crash ie(highside). By freaked out I mean the little thought in the back of your mind when you are coming off the next turn thinking, is my tire bad, was that something on the track, am I about to crash ect ect. These are all mental things that take your focus off of what you should be focusing on. Riding.

Understand that there is a BIG difference between breaking the tire loose for a split second and rear tire spin. This I learned myself as I got faster, and by following guys like Ty and Dane, and a few others that have really good bike control.

When I experience it this is what I do. As the tire starts to spin I decrease lean angle and go neutral throttle at the same time. Meaning I stop accelerating but I DO NOT cut the throttle off completely. I then process what is going on with the bike. If I feel that I can accelerate more, I then apply throttle and adjust body position and lean angle to help the motorcycle finish the corner and come off of it with as much drive as possible (the tire may be spinning the whole time this is happening) Again I want to not loose as much time as possible, and if possible gain time.

It takes a lot of time to develop the skills that you are going to need to take your riding to the next level. Most important is that it takes track time. Being able to get yourself into these situations and getting comfortable with them.

Understand that there are probably a thousand ways to handle the problem you are dealing with. What I have giving you is just an example of what works for me. Good Luck

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On another note check your suspension. I have been fighting mine all year tring to get it right. Getting faster and you will start having to turn knobs on your suspension alot more. Also how old is the rear shock? Has it been serviced yet? There could be 1000 reansons your sliding.
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