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Old 06-21-2009, 10:15 PM   #1
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To GP Shift or not to GP shift?

I had another engine put into my R1......just picked the bike up yesterday. Anyway, when I get it home I take it for a short test ride. At first I didn't know what was going on, but didn't take long for a light bulb to go off in my head. When they put everything back together, they set it up for GP shifting.

My question to those that have your bikes set up for GP shifting. What are the advantages/disadvantages of GP shift over the OEM setup?
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depends if you plan on going track or not.

for the street....there's no use of learning GP shift because every bike out there is going to be a standard shift pattern and if it's not convertible (for example dirtbikes) you'll have to learn to adapt to both, turning it on and off like a light switch, without confusing yourself. takes time, but if you constantly ride both shift patterns, you can adapt no problem. my dirtbike is standard shift (no way, that i know of, to convert to gp) and both my racebikes (sportbikes) are GP shift. i screw a gear up every now and then, but not so much.


for track/street or strictly track.....if you plan on doing a few trackdays here and there, or dedicated to track riding....the only advantage i see of having GP shift is if you have a long sweeper going right you can easily push the shift lever and go through some gears....some people's legs are long enough to hook the lever up. also if you are going through a left turn and need to grab gears, it's still possible to do so without risking dragging your feet on the ground or having your feet get ripped off the peg. so for a track thing....i think learning GP is important.
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Seriously it all comes down to rider preferance.

theres bennifits to having it both ways.



Its faster to bang down on the shifter a few times going into a corner, But its harder to upshift with standard shifting on a left hand corner fully leaning over.



But everything is opposite with gp shifting. Its easier to upshift all around, but slower to down shift.



Even the professionals use standard shifting, some use gp.



What ever you feel most comfortable with, do it. but try out gp for a bit, see if you like it.

that right there means more than it says....when you are shifting up in gp it's faster to shift and you are trying to go faster.....what do you do when you slow down? you down shift.....see where i'm going with this? reverse all of those words and you'll get this....

slower shifting to go faster
faster shifting to slow down


sooooo.....GP FTW!!!
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i go both ways.
that's more info than we needed to know cliff.
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Yes, I do track......that's probably they reason they put it back that way. As far as that adaptation process, not a problem there. I adapt quickly. But based on what has been said thus far, especially in regards to shifting during a left lean, I think I'll switch it back to the standard shift pattern. Long sweeper, R1, 3rd gear will take me through it every time. At least far enough through it that the bike is starting to straighten back up before I need to hit 4th. So no worries about boots hitting pavement while shifting.
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yep either is fine for me. miss a gear now and again going back n forth but not as much now
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I do GP. Upshifts are quicker, and it just feels more natural when blip shifting to me. I really think its personal preference.
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I'm pretty sure the "GP shift" sticker on the triple tree shaves a few seconds off my lap time.
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Yes, I do track......that's probably they reason they put it back that way. As far as that adaptation process, not a problem there. I adapt quickly. But based on what has been said thus far, especially in regards to shifting during a left lean, I think I'll switch it back to the standard shift pattern. Long sweeper, R1, 3rd gear will take me through it every time. At least far enough through it that the bike is starting to straighten back up before I need to hit 4th. So no worries about boots hitting pavement while shifting.

That's what I said and I got into trouble a few times before giving up and went back to standard shift.
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I'm pretty sure the "GP shift" sticker on the triple tree shaves a few seconds off my lap time.
LOL


It looks kool too





I bet you hear "is that so you remember which way to shift?" all the time
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That's what I said and I got into trouble a few times before giving up and went back to standard shift.
Seriously...when it comes to machinery, I really do adapt extremely quickly. Bulldozer, crane, 10 ton forklift, backhoe, you name it....I can adapt to it in a matter of minutes.

Now take a weird name that I am not accustomed to saying such as Tedtha, I don't easily adapt to something like that. Took me over a month to be able to say that name naturally without having to think to to say it first.
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It looks kool too

I bet you hear "is that so you remember which way to shift?" all the time
We give these shift pattern stickers out in tech at the CMRA races so we can know which pattern you have in case we need to move or ride your bike and you're not able to assist. It does work as you say, though; many times I've raced bikes that belonged to others, and never knew the shift patterm until I sat on the bike and read it on the tank or triple clamps. I did it last weekend, actually.

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Seriously...when it comes to machinery, I really do adapt extremely quickly. Bulldozer, crane, 10 ton forklift, backhoe, you name it....I can adapt to it in a matter of minutes.

Now take a weird name that I am not accustomed to saying such as Tedtha, I don't easily adapt to something like that. Took me over a month to be able to say that name naturally without having to think to to say it first.
It's mental. I usually just say/think "Down to go faster" when I get on a GP shift bike. Adaptation takes place in seconds.
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I had another engine put into my R1......just picked the bike up yesterday. Anyway, when I get it home I take it for a short test ride. At first I didn't know what was going on, but didn't take long for a light bulb to go off in my head. When they put everything back together, they set it up for GP shifting.

My question to those that have your bikes set up for GP shifting. What are the advantages/disadvantages of GP shift over the OEM setup?
there are no advantages at all only disadvantages if it doesn't come naturally and instictively.
If you have to think about it you're on a hiding to nothing.
stick to what you know.
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i prefer gp bc its easier to grab gear coming out of turns.... its a matter of preference nothing else.
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