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Old 06-21-2009, 08:34 AM   #21
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No clue, but I would not be so quick to look past yourself.
Your a beginner and you have a CBR 1000RR. This is not a beginners bike.
Based on your sign on you like to go fast.
You are setting up a bad scenerio.
Hope you have taken the safety course.

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Old 06-21-2009, 08:48 AM   #22
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No clue, but I would not be so quick to look past yourself.
Your a beginner and you have a CBR 1000RR. This is not a beginners bike.
Based on your sign on you like to go fast.

You are setting up a bad scenerio.
Hope you have taken the safety course.

Becareful and good luck.
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:49 AM   #23
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I hit tar snakes on back roads at a nice clip. It makes my rear end wiggle a bit, but nothing that would make me think I would crash at 8mph. I also ride the same bike as you, so if I was resting on a tar snake, gave a litre bike a bit too much throttle, im sure it would spin. But no so much that you wouldnt be able to save it.

I dunno man. Weird.


Track days? MSF? Sure seems awefully slow not to be able to handle it.
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:56 AM   #24
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I hit tar snakes on back roads at a nice clip. It makes my rear end wiggle a bit, but nothing that would make me think I would crash at 8mph. I also ride the same bike as you, so if I was resting on a tar snake, gave a litre bike a bit too much throttle, im sure it would spin. But no so much that you wouldnt be able to save it.

I dunno man. Weird.


Track days? MSF? Sure seems awefully slow not to be able to handle it.
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:03 AM   #25
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..i cant really do anything about this mishap. just bad luck i guess
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:22 AM   #26
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Remember, he said he was at a stop light and went through this patch of whatever it is. You also have to take into consideration that vehicles leak oil, condensation from AC, etc, all day long at the light.

Prob a combination of the weird tar spot and accumulated auto fluids would have done it.
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:47 AM   #27
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So, you crashed at 8mph in a straight line. There is way more to this story.

I think your best bet would be to trade the 1000 for a Ninja 250. I'm not being a smart , I just think you will enjoy the sport much more with the right bike for your experience.

I started on a 50. 25 years later, I have a 1050..........
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:46 AM   #28
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Also watch out for those metal sheets covering construction, they are very slippery in the rain. If you have to turn left or right on these, throttle and brake control is crucial.

I have spun out on them on my 1KRR
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Old 06-21-2009, 11:26 AM   #29
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So, you crashed at 8mph in a straight line. There is way more to this story.
Or he crashed at 8mph in a turn, which means he fell over.

It seems like there is more to the story than we know.
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Old 06-21-2009, 11:30 AM   #30
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Oh I wanna add a hazard to those who don't know.

When you are doing a u-turn under the freeway or just turning in an intersection under a freeway, the pavement is usually grooved for better traction , FOR CARS, in the rain.
On a bike even when it's dry there is about 25% LESS pavement for your tires to grip, meaning about 25% less grip than would otherwise be the case. Add a little dust or moisture and taking those cool u-turn lanes while hanging off, is a recipe for a lowside. (been there, done that)
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Old 06-21-2009, 12:43 PM   #31
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I saw a guy on 150 on a Bandit 1200 lose grip while mildly braking in a perfectly straight line. We had just slowed from 80 for a police cruiser coming the other way, and the light ahead was red so we were slowing from 55 to 0 in about a half mile. He hit a 2 inch tar strip and locked the front. You could see his tire mark went left very fast. He had no idea why he'd fallen, how he'd fallen, or what he'd hit. 20 other bikes braked over the same strip no problem. He slipped sideways so hard he broke his collarbone. ATTGAT so no scrapes or radrash despite his 50 MPH speed.

I can see too much throttle, one strip, and a fall, but it is rare rare rare and more a sign of loss of control after hitting it, than the strip being to sole cause. More experience always helps you make the save. Go ride some dirt and get used to tires sliding.
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Don't lie, I saw you armor all your tires.
crashing at 8 mph is almost unheard of unless there is debris on the road and which there isn't any from the OP. I would conclude from armor all on tires to cause slippage. MSF?
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If you need parts for that CBR, lemme know.

Sucks about the crash.
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Old 06-21-2009, 04:09 PM   #34
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thanks..well...i ordered the oem fairing and rear fairing that scraped so im good on parts. What sucks most is that was the day it was delivered from the place i bought it so i was being very cautious and wasnt doing anything i couldnt handle. i might have had dirt still on my tire though because i have to ride a half mile on dirt VERY slow before i even hit pavement. rode for about 15 more miles on a straight, & curves,at highway speed and no problems. i know its hard to think theres not more to that story but its true. although that turn does decline a little bit on the right side of the lane im thinking i turned at just the right angle to hit it and my back tire slide under. I never felt it get away from me. thanks anyway guys..i take all comments and learn from them as best i can but nothing teaches better than when something actually happens.
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if it was delivered that day and the bike was brand new, I would be looking at the tires. Tar snakes are slippery in the winter and when wet, but are more sludgy during 95 degree days. Now brand new tires will slip and slide very easily.
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Old 06-21-2009, 06:14 PM   #36
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Yeah, im not gonna lie, i LOLd when i noticed your name after reading the story. Tar snakes, gas station spots, parking spots, the center of the lanes at stoplights, the road paint, etc all get slick after getting damp.
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New tires can be a sometime, also what tires are you running?
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I've got a cousin who, for his first bike, is going to buy an 04 sv1000. He thinks because he weighs 280lbs that his weight will compensate for the larger bike and his lack-of experience.

I'm praying for him already. He's gonna drop it, he's gonna wreck, and will most probably 12 o clock it at some point.

Good luck on the 1000 man. I doubt anyone knows for sure why you went down at that red light, but most will agree you need a smaller bike.
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In the summer there's usually water from car a/c condensation at most traffic lights
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